1. Click on the big button in the header next to ‘Local’ that says ‘All’.
  2. Click the drop-down field directly next to ‘All’.
  3. Click ‘Active’ from the drop-down list.
  4. Click on a thread loaded on the page.
  5. Reply to users in that thread.

Congrats! You have successfully done a brigading! Pat yourself on the back! Next seminar, we will be covering how to subtly deceive strategically-important redditors with a simple tactic they don’t know of called ‘whataboutism’ sicko-hexbear

Edit: meant to post this in the secret group chat where we coordinate the fall of the west. Sorry y’all. My bad deeper-sadness

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    evrart — “It’s not brigading, Harry! It’s simply inciting a conversation! There’s nothing that says we can’t all engage in a simple little conversation, is there?”

    de-rhetoric [Hard: Success] — He’s right. There was a rule against it, back in your old haunt; but here is not there.

    dubois-depressed — “There’s nothing stopping us from banning you for brigading, anyway.”

    evrart — “Oh, don’t be an asshole, Harry. You’re a good man, and you’re certainly not an asshole. Besides, while your mod powers are still missing, I don’t believe you’ll be able to ban anybody. Now, if you’d like to take this conversation a little more seriously, I’d be more than happy to assist you in locating that banhammer of yours again.”

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    When a lemmy thread is put in the dunktank and people go to the thread from the post in the dunktank even if it isn’t linked it still is brigading, it’s brigading when the tankiejerk places do it to lemmygrad too, it’s funneling people into a thread that they only saw because it was posted in the dunktank. If that isn’t brigading then nothing is brigading.

    It’s disengenious to try to spin it as people only finding stuff in the all tab, because people do jump into the threads they see in the dunktank and that definitely hasn’t contributed to making any goodwill for this site among other instances, if the person deserves to be dunked on people will find it they dont need a giant bat signal post in the dunktank to figure it out.

    I do think most of the people put in there deserve it on some level, but you guys are speedrunning every other user to instance ban hexbear whenever that comes out.

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      Fundamentally disagree. Brigading, as originally conceived by reddit, is an organized raid of one forum by another. Posting a screenshot to the_dunk_tank with a link is not organization. There is no call to action, it’s just naming and shaming. If the user featured in the screenshot said something reprehensible, then they shouldn’t be surprised if it spurs others to relentlessly mock and bully them. But when that happens, it’s absolutely not a unified effort, nor is it targeting the forum as a whole.

      That’s just a consequence of saying reactionary shit in a public setting in full view of people who tend to be hurt by reactionary rhetoric. This isn’t violence, there are no real threats being made. Everyone is totally free to continue to say whatever they want in accordance with the rules of their home instance. But if you voice your opinion in public, it’s rather hypocritical to get pissed about others voicing their own opinions back.

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        Brigading, as originally conceived by reddit, is an organized raid of one forum by another.

        I think most people not on this instance will see no difference between this and thedunktank, if there was a tankiejerk community just as big as the dunktank and operating in the same way with no explicit call to brigade and they mass showed up to hexbear posts featured on it, would you feel the same way, I don’t buy it, you would probably just defed from them

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          yes but we’re right.
          Also we tend to ban dipshits once we’ve had our fun. They’re welcome to do the same, but the fact we keep our petty bullshit to ourselves and instead engage in earnest in the OPs, I think goes some way to dispelling the brigadier narrative

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            I think your point is fair.

            I think goes some way to dispelling the brigadier narrative

            But, I think a bigger step would be adding something to thedunktank rules discouragining “brigading”, not linking specifically lemmy posts directly, and hiding the usernames of the people involved in the screenshots.

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                It is a non issue, but I think if it could have been done over again it would have been better to take the Titoist approach rather than going so agro on everyone, I guess people will just make alts so they can actually use the fediverse, but it kind of defeats the point of it to just defed or get deffedded from everyone, obviously a few exploding heads, burggit, etc. are unacceptable hate speech, CSAM, etc. but it’s very silly that a blahaj user now can’t interact with a hexbear user and most of the bigger ones besides lemm.ee and lemmy.ml can’t either, just dissapointing that it went down like it did. Even on reddit sure you could block CTH but it wasn’t auto blocked to all new users.

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                  blahaj was defederated because they refused to accept a bunch of queer commies, going so far as to say those groupings are mutually exclusive. blahaj is also largely a vaushite/196 instance which sucks.

                  That one actually hurt to see tbh. Thankfully, we’ve had a few folks jump over due to the contradictions there. Here’s hoping the rest find their way

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        I don’t disagree, but posting another lemmy post as a post in thedunktank is literally the definition of “brigading” funneling users from this instance into whatever thread, I don’t think it’s that harmful, but I can see why people see it as brigading because that’s what it is

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    Are you sure that we should use “whataboutism”? It’s actually a logical fallacy.

    Whataboutism or whataboutery (as in “what about…?”) denotes in a pejorative sense a procedure in which a critical question or argument is not answered or discussed, but retorted with a critical counter-question which expresses a counter-accusation. From a logical and argumentative point of view it is considered a variant of the tu-quoque pattern (Latin ‘you too’, term for a counter-accusation), which is a subtype of the ad-hominem argument.

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      Most of the time libs use accusations of it improperly in the first place. Shit like:

      A: “Cuba is a failed state.”

      B: “Cuba’s difficulties arise mostly from the American embargo.”

      A: “America? Oh my God whataboutism!”

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        Sorry, I just found out that I missed the sarcasm in “a simple tactic they don’t know of called ‘whataboutism’”. I did get the sarcasm for the rest of the post, but for some reason I did not realize that that sentence was also sarcastic. Apparently it’s making fun of people calling our arguments whataboutism, lol.

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      Every thread that involves Ukraine, China, Africa or the Middle East that reaches /all/ inevitably results in a million liberals complaining that Hexbear users are brigading it because we say things in those threads that they don’t agree with and that makes them seethe therefore we must be coordinating it.

      A lot of people don’t seem to understand that because every instance on lemmy is federated to different instances, everyone’s /all/ page is different. This means that when a thread shows up on /all/ for any given instance the users from that instance all show up at the same time. This ends up looking like some coordinated explosion of Hexbears but really it just means it reached top of /all/ for us.

      tl:dr: Libs don’t like what socialists say therefore it’s all a sinister plot by russian bots.

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    God I hate whataboutism. Because no really what about it? Why are you comfortable taking such blatantly hypocrytical stances arrrrg. It just seems like a way to ignore valid critiques