By all western accounts (might as well say most credible) Ukraine is without a doubt winning this war, there is no denying how substantial the Russian losses have been not just in sheer numbers of those killed on the frontlines but even more so those who have been impacted by the western imposed sanctions which can be removed if Russia removes themselves from occupied Ukraine. I think there have been 14 million Russian deaths as a result of this war and only 4000 Ukrainian deaths - that number includes victims of war (may they rest in peace).

I just want the hexbears to enlighten me - they make bold claims but never follow up with any sources, they constantly repeat the same whataboutisms without acknowledging material reality around them, you can keep retracting your arguments anytime you are proven wrong but this playdoh act can only go so far - if you “”communists”” (hate typing that word) actually had an ounce of care for humanity, wouldn’t you be opposed to the Ruzzian invasion of a sovereign nation such as Ukraine? Let me paint a picture for you - you children might understand this more if I speak in your terms:

If you claim Israel (which is a real country by all historical accounts), that they have no right to be on alleged stolen Palestine land… why do you not come to the same conclusion when it comes to Russia and Ukraine? Oh, another example, why would you not vote Biden who is by no means a great candidate but by choosing not to vote you allow a fascist (antithesis of communists) into power? Don’t you think you have a moral obligation to vote out fascism every time?

I don’t know, though- I’m just a person on the interweb- my opinions are correct and backed by the smartest minds in the west, I do not have to listen to any of you so don’t expect much engagement from me in the comments - thanks!

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    It amazes me that people don’t realize that defending democracy doesn’t end with this battle. If you give up on Ukraine, then next comes Taiwan, South Korea, Poland.

    This. Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy maybe-later-kiddo

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    Russia isn’t real. Have you ever seen Vladimir Putin and the entire cast of The Deprogram at the same place at the same time? No? Coincidence? I think not.

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      the entire cast of The Deprogram at the same place at the same time

      I love their bitching about how impossible it is to record a podcast with people on opposite sides of the globe lol

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    I was a little hopeful about the closing fakenews post you did. It actually seemed genuine and self-reflective for once, especially after you got so shitty with people over another terrible “ironic” comm request last week.

    Maybe I’m getting too old and don’t understand the whole “posting a reactionary rant but actually it’s ironic” thing anymore, but your posts generally don’t seem satirical, they just seem like they were directly written by a lib and posted on your account with an assurance it is definitely just a joke.

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        This post hit every western talking point in a simple to follow list.

        Yeah, exactly. Melina is just repeating actual things I have heard irl libs saying over the last couple of years. 14 million Russians and 4000 Ukrainians could come straight from the victims of communism memorial foundation.

        If I came across this post from a random lemm.ee user I wouldn’t have any reason to think it’s a bit, just that they were a chud. The only thing that distinguishes Melina’s post from that of a random lib is that we already know faer.

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            No it doesn’t. There was a headline last week about Russia allegedly losting over 80% of it’s forces. How many articles are there about how the sanctions are totally working? Israel being real, equating the situation to ukraine, vote biden as the lesser evil - these are all literally western news reports. There’s probably a near identical comment on reddit somewhere. Like I said, they’re all things I have literally had said to me by people in real life. It’s not even repeating the same things they say but in a stupid voice because it’s text, so the only context that tells you that it’s meant to be ironic is that Melina is posting it on CTH - if you don’t have terminal internet poisoning those words mean nothing, so it just looks like normal liberalism.

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              I really disagree. I don’t even know who Melina is. The first line is obvious satire: “By all western accounts (might as well say most credible)”. It doesn’t take “terminal internet poisoning” to take that as ironic. People don’t front load their ideology like that. It’s just assumed, they don’t have to say it. Going to disengage because neither of likely want to debate.

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      I’m in a discord with faer, fae is the biggest lib I’ve ever met

      The mods only allow faer to keep posting because the mods are also all libs

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        Can confirm, fae sends me daily updates on faer attempts to undermine someone who’s trying to salt in faer workplace and how fae’s planning to rat him out to faer boss next week because “unions are a form of theft from the boss” apparently

        Also fae has six outdoor cats and faer favourite show is young sheldon

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    why would you not vote Biden who is by no means a great candidate but by choosing not to vote you allow a fascist

    I’m voting for Hunter

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    Has anyone else just not followed this war at all?

    I have no fucking clue what’s going on from a tactical standpoint. People were talking about bakmut or something for, like, ever?

    I don’t know. It just feels like following the particulars is really pointless for me.

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      Has anyone else just not followed this war at all?

      I wish I had - two years down the drain that I’ll never get back, thanks Joe, you old demented fuck.

      Then again it was absolutely glorious/baffling/just couldn’t stop to watch NATO and the West entangling itself in this mess and lose to Putin’s Russia. Just… being alive while history is made, you have to watch and marvel, right?

      Maybe should have stopped after Afghanistan. DEFINITELY should stop after Kyiev falls. Probably want to watch when Tel Aviv falls.

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        Are we ever going to find out why Russia put an entire army on a single highway, then slowly drove towards kiev for days?

        The fact that Russia didn’t win the war in a week, and that all the equipment and advisers NATO can send is barely on par with Russia’s refurbished leftovers from the USSR is just baffling.

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          They were invading as a bluff originally.

          This almost worked, until NATO flew in and promised unlimited support to regain the eastern territories.

          Unfortunately, Zelensky believed those lies.

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          Are we ever going to find out why Russia put an entire army on a single highway, then slowly drove towards kiev for days?

          This happened in every war since mechanization. Google “Sedan traffic jam 1940”, it happened to the goddamn Wehrmacht in the OG Blitzkrieg. Largest traffic in history, maybe.

          Lately we have the US stuck Nasiriyah for days until they sorted out the situation. Don’t blame this on Ruzzia because of some Putler insanity. Kiev was threatened right from the first day when the VDV took Hostomel.

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            I don’t expect strategic genius from the US or nazi germany.

            Isn’t the whole thing about soviet military strategy since WWII about not getting bogged down by rivers, aircraft, defensive positions, etc so they could create/exploit holes in the enemy’s lines?

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      The whole thing kind of feels like it would be a “I am not informed enough on regional history to have an opinion on this” thing for me if not for the US and their glorified lackies, who I despise, trying to butt in so hard

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    Wow, I’ve never seen such pro-russia propaganda. 14 million dead? Are you kidding me?

    The entire country is walking undead, risen by the dark arts of communism, and you would know that if you weren’t entrenched in your commie bubble.