It’s Joever.

  • SoyViking [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    8 months ago

    That’s Holocaust denial levels of malicious absurdity. Palestinians? A myth, the KGB made them up. That giant pile of bodies over there? It’s nothing, don’t worry about it.

    • Fishroot [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      8 months ago

      I don’t really get the point of Palestinians as an invented identity because it is irrelevant. Even if it is the truth, there are still a system of apartheid in place, an identity (in this case Arabs) forced on Palestinians by the Israeli Regime. The label doesn’t change the the fact there is systematic oppression of a group.

      In other point of view, if the ‘‘Palestinian’’ identity is invented, shouldn’t the Israeli system stop to exist and try to build a more inclusive society?

      I also head the argument of Palestinians identity is just Arabs with a history of oppression that differ them from the rest of the Arabs; therefore, it’s not real (and they don’t deserve rights/recognition???). However, the State of israel doesn’t survive this argument neither as Zionism is a building of a jewish and in general eurocentric identity piggyriding on the horror of the holocaust.

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]@hexbear.net
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        8 months ago

        it’s a case where Zionism’s ideological justification becomes a liability. under a secular humanist worldview, all human beings have certain rights which must be respected and upheld. but for the ethnonationalist, people don’t have rights, only peoples do, and in particular peoples which have proved themselves by forming modern, nominally independent nation states with powerful military forces.

        another result of this is how it filters the catalyst for Israel’s formation, the Nazi Holocaust. to the Zionist, if Jews aren’t allowed to forge their own state through blood and soil, to consecrate leviathan with a period of mass killings of indigenous peoples like the other western powers, then there’s no way to say that the Holocaust wasn’t in some sense justified. they really do believe that Europe is for (white, Christian) Europeans, and therefore Israel must be for (white, Jewish) Israelis.