I appreciate that you put more effort into it than just making a “let that sink in” pun.

i shit my pants and now the left and the right are laughing at me so i know I’m winning

The more unpopular an opinion is, the more it’s factually correct. I know because everyone hates me.

JFK’s head just did that

Honestly I do kind of wonder how many events are a multi-car pile-up of plots enacted by actors with similar but slightly diverging goals, making the entire thing a uncontrolled mess

Oh my god, next time I hear a 9/11 truther I’m pulling out this absolute banger

After the famous kindergarten picture, Bush rang up Osama and immediately said “well dang looks like we wore the same ole shirt to the party”

This is true, but Freemasonry also exists as a higher cult than that - lots of US presidents have been members (partly because elites join every exclusive club going for networking), and it was/is rife in the British Empire at all levels, just that the higher levels like with every cult exploit the lesser, while allowing the lesser to exploit outsiders.

In religious terms, Freemasonry is just protestantism mixed with old Judaism - partly why its disliked by ‘popular’ christianity, being suspected of a return to what the ‘early church’ had an issue with.

Well its likely that the rothschilds for example will continue to ‘win’ for the foreseeable future, they’re not wrong. In my country, the descendents of rulers of 1000 years ago still largely rule. One person of this kind I met told me ‘we’ve been fucked since the Pharoahs, we’re just slaves’ and I can see his point. What good is communism to a western peasant, its kind of ‘pie in the sky’ to someone who’s never seen, or been decived about, a tangible victory.

I guess from the point of view of a ‘peasant’, I can see why they think that way - for example, it does look like collusion when China trades with and signs deals with the US, or Russia does the same, or when countries participate together in international bodies, despite their differing interests and conflicts. Of course, as you say, its a narrow focus and lacks a kind of context & analysis that is more kind of big picture. But its the education system and propaganda at fault, not them so much.

Power is kind of mana, its just money, laws & the more abstract ‘influence’, and of course guns and such, and money is spent like mana and granted by a higher power (social relations). I think the ‘evil esoteric arcane means’ is just code for legal systems - ‘fairy tales’ talk a lot about this kind of thing in metaphor, like these conspiracy theories, because its a way of communicating knowledge and getting it past censors. Simultaneously, a lot of these theorists use a religious framework to talk about this stuff, coming from that kind of upbringing, hence the constant references to demons (amusingly, also how Iran refers to the west in terms of Satan).

But I think they’re talking about the same things, usually, and in fact its kind of like ‘esoteric anarchism’ in the sense of anti-archon ism. I think the constant ‘they’re dividing us’ ignores the material reality that people are divided (and often fails to question and criticise those divisions and how they can be resolved), but it also idealistically displays a yearning for people not to be divided by for example, race, which is a laudible goal or wish.

I don’t mean to write an apologia for them so much, but I’m not sure about this kind of reaction against them being particularly useful, its the kind of orthodox reaction against heresy, and our current orthodoxy is capitalist, aristocratic, and so on. If someone is shitting on the Rothschilds or Freemasons, I don’t see much of an issue. But I can understand the frustration, but I think its also important to understand them too, and why they think like that, and also not to take what they say entirely literally.

That is pretty true though. Actually what is the consensus on 9/11 for hexbear? Because I really don’t see a reason to believe the US and Saudi Arabia didn’t do it. I’ve seen some people claim it’s genuine blowback and in all honesty I’ve never heard a convincing argument as to why.

Its not particularly centralised, more like a franchise system, so they vary a lot. There’s thousands of lodges still in the UK, like one in almost every town of a certain size, multiple in cities. They’re very secretive so membership is a guess.

A lot of them still don’t accept women in their cult. A lot of them have ties with Unions (as well as political parties/figures, and other power structures and institutions, mostly in the protestant world), including infamously police Unions.

I suppose a proto-union thing (there being a lot of stone building particularly in the gothic/European Imperial era like victorian/georgian times in the UK), with a somewhat absurd claim to be descendents of or inheritors of the secrets of the builders of Solomon’s Temple. But not too different from other guilds, like the Worshipful Company of Haberdashers for example, the sort of pirates, scammers, merchants, artisans, and monopolists who founded the East India Company and built the British Empire.

They might seem nice, and some probably are, but I don’t trust them at all - like I wouldn’t trust a Scientologist. Religion needs to be conducted in the open and publically by the masses, not in the shadows by cabals and cults or else they get up to all sorts of mischief.

edit: the builders of Solomon’s Temple incidentally were according to most accounts demons/devils/jinn, so its not a particularly endearing claim to most christians.