We know that Hamas tunnels were found in hospital complexes. We know by video evidence that hostages were taken to hospitals in plain sight. We know by hostage testimony that doctors kept them jailed. This story isn’t too far out of the scope of things.
Why is it important? The hospitals are financed by the World Health Organization, part of the UN. The US spends a lot of tax dollars supporting WHO, only for it to used by a terrorist organization
The allegation isn’t about the tunnels, it’s about the director of the hospital, other hospital staff, and other hospital infrastructure (ambulances) as being owned by Hamas that’s questionable due to having been obtained by interrogation techniques.
It may very well be true, but I’m not going to take the interrogators word that it is, nor should anyone else.
How would it be true for you though? It’s not like this evidence is likely to be sourced any other way. People are not going to admit to being used by a terrorist organization freely.
If Israel actively eliminates journalists and has people confessing under interrogation, we should believe them why?
That being said, I don’t actually doubt there being tunnels. I just can’t see it as an excuse for genocide 🤷♂️ I don’t mind, give Hamas fighters a trial and make them pay for their crimes, totally fine.
Just don’t torture people in prison and then present it as evidence.
Several news bodies are reporting this story. I guess I could wait until one that you trust pops up.
I’d wait for a story that reports the facts outside interrogation techniques, but I think we’ll be waiting a loooong time on that one.
We know that Hamas tunnels were found in hospital complexes. We know by video evidence that hostages were taken to hospitals in plain sight. We know by hostage testimony that doctors kept them jailed. This story isn’t too far out of the scope of things.
Why is it important? The hospitals are financed by the World Health Organization, part of the UN. The US spends a lot of tax dollars supporting WHO, only for it to used by a terrorist organization
The allegation isn’t about the tunnels, it’s about the director of the hospital, other hospital staff, and other hospital infrastructure (ambulances) as being owned by Hamas that’s questionable due to having been obtained by interrogation techniques.
It may very well be true, but I’m not going to take the interrogators word that it is, nor should anyone else.
How would it be true for you though? It’s not like this evidence is likely to be sourced any other way. People are not going to admit to being used by a terrorist organization freely.
Gee, I dunno, maybe if Israel would let investigative reporters in without trying to kill them we might get some actual answers.
https://cpj.org/2023/12/journalist-casualties-in-the-israel-gaza-conflict/
"As of December 17:
64 journalists and media workers were confirmed dead: 57 Palestinian, 4 Israeli, and 3 Lebanese.
13 journalists were reported injured.
3 journalists were reported missing.
19 journalists were reported arrested.
Multiple assaults, threats, cyberattacks, censorship, and killings of family members."
More on the CPJ:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/committee-to-protect-journalists/
Now we’re on to journalists? Nice defection, but I think we’ll end this here.
Deflection?
You said, “ It’s not like this evidence is likely to be sourced any other way.”
They said as paraphrased, “yes there is another way, letting journalists cover the topic”
And you called this deflection? You are the one not arguing in good faith.
If Israel actively eliminates journalists and has people confessing under interrogation, we should believe them why?
That being said, I don’t actually doubt there being tunnels. I just can’t see it as an excuse for genocide 🤷♂️ I don’t mind, give Hamas fighters a trial and make them pay for their crimes, totally fine.
Just don’t torture people in prison and then present it as evidence.
Nobody used it as an excuse for anything.
I like how he literally answered your question, with an answer that made perfect sense.
Gave resonas as to why this answer doesn’t exist yet.
And you still had the nerve to call it a defection. Pretty sure your goalposts don’t even exist at this point.
So going to a completely different subject works for you? Different strokes I guess.
Could you provide a source for this? 🤔
How horrible of them to have taken those injured hostages to a hospital 😂