• TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOP
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    11 months ago

    We should remember that it’s the hard right government of Israel that perpetuates this, not the average Israeli. They are heavily indoctrinated and propagandized. They are victims too.

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      11 months ago

      Is that what we should do for the Nazis? Have sympathy for them and the Nazi propaganda at the time? Mass killing is not ok period. Sympathy be damned.

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          11 months ago

          Lack of sympathy equals hate? No. Just because I do not empathize with somebody does mean I want them to experience harm. I’m just not gonna lose any sleep if they do. Sue me.

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      11 months ago

      Yeah but. I mean. So were the Germans during WW2 under the Nazi regime. Is that really a good excuse?

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      11 months ago

      True, but they are the same people that keep voting in the far right. It’s the same in many countries at the moment.nthe far right is not supported by all, but by enough to gain power.

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        11 months ago

        Do all Americans deserve to suffer because low information voters keep electing Republicans?

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          11 months ago

          No, but that’s how democracy works.

          You could widen it. Does all the world deserve to suffer as many voters in America choose to be low information voters?

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        11 months ago

        Netanyahu barely won the last election and is being prosecuted for corruption. Leading up to the attack he had months of protests against his government. Lots of Israelis agree he’s horrible and shouldn’t be running the country.

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          11 months ago

          Get back to me when someone wins with a platform of treating Palestinians like human beings.

          Until then, I wouldn’t cross the street to piss on them if they were on fire.

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      11 months ago

      Well, perhaps not for long. In recent polls, when asked who should be the next prime minister of Israel, 2/3 of israelis said “anyone but Netanjahu”. Could be though that they’d be fine with another hawk.

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      11 months ago

      Nah, I have no sympathy simply due to the fact they chose to be a part of that so called society. It’s not like somebody put a gun to their head and forced to move there.

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        11 months ago

        Dumb fuck comments like these are why criticisms get automatically called antisemitism. What a stupid take.

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          11 months ago

          Lol. Bullshit. Conflating Zionism with the interests of the entire Jewish population is choosing to deny any Jewish person their own agency. I do not advocate violence, period. However, some jerk that actually chooses to participate in a bigoted authoritarian society finding that’s it’s not all sunshine and roses and instead exposes them to potential danger and violence instead? Boo fucking hoo.

          But, sure, pointing out the blatant similarities between Zionism and fascism is the problem. Yeah, whatever. Go on with your bad self…or something. I still have no sympathy for zionists.

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            11 months ago

            The comment you were replying to is literally in reference to “the average israeli citizen”. What the fuck are you talking about

            Nobody (here) is denying that Zionism is modern day Fascism, certainly not me. But in the comment that I replied to, you are sure to say that nobody forced them to move there, but something like 80% of Israelis were born there. I imagine a lifetime of indoctrination is something difficult to overcome.