There is a lot of discussion happening in the background of our project here. We
could not anticipate all of the challenges that we were going to face a few
years ago. One of the reasons for this was because we had no idea what our
choice of a platform would bring. Specifically, we chose Lemmy as the software
that we would use to launch our endeavor to attempt a safe space for
marginalized persons online. In the first year or so, this choice was completely
successful for a very small number of users. And then we all experienced an
enormous influx of users when Reddit announced/implemented their shutting down
of third party apps. Since then there has been a huge number of people that have
joined the Beehaw project. This tsunami of users initiated technical problems,
and otherwise, that we could not foresee. Thankfully and fortunately, we have
had a couple of incredibly knowledgeable persons that have swooped in to ’save
the day’ and keep this site running. Unfortunately, these persons will NOT be
able to continue to support the Beehaw project much further. They have life
commitments and other factors, including careers and family life, that will
prevent them from contributing to our project in an ongoing fashion. All that
being said, Lemmy (the software that Beehaw runs on) development is incredibly
slow and is riddled with problems that makes administration/moderation very
painful. Therefore, we are left with some options that may feel uncomfortable to
us. For example, we may want to consider leaving the Fediverse for another
software platform that does NOT include ActivityPub. To explain,
Fediverse/ActivityPub are very positive concepts on the foundational level.
However, the Beehaw project is struggling to include this because most of our
moderation/content/ethos is being jeopardized from OTHER federated instances
(i.e. it, mostly, is NOT coming from within our own Beehaw registered user
base). The aforementioned persons, that have ’swooped in to save the day’, have
been discussing/working with us to come up with the best solutions that would
enable the Beehaw project to continue while NOT needing incredibly
experienced/technically adept persons around. Right now, we are testing
alternative software platforms and evaluating them based on everything that we
want Beehaw to become in the future. Thank you all for your continued support of
the Beehaw project and entrusting us to make this happen.
I’m sure people here can empathize with having all the tech wizards get burnt out and leave, and all the various teething problems but this is a bit much… lemmy has its issues but plenty of sites larger and smaller than beehaw are getting on just fine. Perhaps the lib sysadmins are just going back to brunch?
This is really sad for me. Beehaw was what helped me really dive into the Fediverse, and then I found midwest.social through them, and then you guys federated, and now I’m here… but they’re such a kind and sweet place on the Internet.
I get that they’re mostly lib af, but still, they’re very kind, well-meaning folk, and I wouldn’t have found you all without them.
I’ve been meaning to dive back in over there to say hi and be supportive but have had so much irl stuff going on, and man oh man, it just really hurts my heart that they’re going through such terrible growing pains. I meant to contribute to the living expenses of one of the admins because I appreciate their work so much, and then I adhd-taxed myself and got some overdraft fees and was distracted with hexbear in the meantime and totally forgot, and damn do I feel like an asshole.
Idk what the point of this is, except to say that they’re really wonderfully kind people over there, and I’m so sorry that things are getting so difficult for them.
I need to put some money where my heart is and contribute more to them and to hexbear.
midwest.social mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
but yeah thats the vibe i got from them too. one of the few libby instances that dont still constantly bring up hexbear despite defederating, pretty unfortunate to lose em
Do you know why? This piece is the shortest of many essays they’ve got about what they’re trying to achieve and why. The basic gist is that they want to make a kind, supportive online community as a refuge for marginalized people. It’s an anti-dunking community, so definitely not everyone’s cup of tea, but I’m curious what about them might cause a negative view.
Edit: I really appreciate all the information and perspective ❤️ thanks, everyone
They pre-emptively defederated from Hexbear (more than a year before we even had the ability to federate) making up the excuse that hatespeech(lmao yeah ok suuuure) was their reason for doing so. The reality is that they have been anti-communists from the start, they are an explicitly neoliberal project with the intent of grooming their users into neoliberalism, but this goal must remain secret so they couldn’t just say “we defederated from hexbear because they’re socialists”, hence the lies.
As you can probably imagine, this creates a lot of animosity here.
Most of us became aware of them when they made an announcement in the midst of the Reddit exodus red scare accusing us of bigotry and hate speech, so our first broad impression was that they are (administrated by) fucking morons who are perfectly comfortable lying about other communities.
Since I don’t have any personal experience, I’m not sure, but maybe someone else will chime in. Certainly their reputation is for being aggressively liberal in the worst ways
Their instance sucks. They’re just libs with a massive civility fetish. The only credit I’ll give them is they at least aren’t trying to recreate Reddit without spez like the rest of the Ledditor instances. It actually would make sense for a civility fetish instance that doesn’t actually want to recreate Reddit to have second thoughts about staying on a shitty Reddit clone.
This is really sad for me. Beehaw was what helped me really dive into the Fediverse, and then I found midwest.social through them, and then you guys federated, and now I’m here… but they’re such a kind and sweet place on the Internet.
I get that they’re mostly lib af, but still, they’re very kind, well-meaning folk, and I wouldn’t have found you all without them.
I’ve been meaning to dive back in over there to say hi and be supportive but have had so much irl stuff going on, and man oh man, it just really hurts my heart that they’re going through such terrible growing pains. I meant to contribute to the living expenses of one of the admins because I appreciate their work so much, and then I adhd-taxed myself and got some overdraft fees and was distracted with hexbear in the meantime and totally forgot, and damn do I feel like an asshole.
Idk what the point of this is, except to say that they’re really wonderfully kind people over there, and I’m so sorry that things are getting so difficult for them.
I need to put some money where my heart is and contribute more to them and to hexbear.
We are privileged to have you here with us, comrade the_ibst
midwest.social mentioned 🔥🔥🔥 but yeah thats the vibe i got from them too. one of the few libby instances that dont still constantly bring up hexbear despite defederating, pretty unfortunate to lose em
Interesting to hear your perspective, because although I’ve never checked it out myself, the overall perception of them around here is very not good
Do you know why? This piece is the shortest of many essays they’ve got about what they’re trying to achieve and why. The basic gist is that they want to make a kind, supportive online community as a refuge for marginalized people. It’s an anti-dunking community, so definitely not everyone’s cup of tea, but I’m curious what about them might cause a negative view.
Edit: I really appreciate all the information and perspective ❤️ thanks, everyone
They pre-emptively defederated from Hexbear (more than a year before we even had the ability to federate) making up the excuse that hatespeech(lmao yeah ok suuuure) was their reason for doing so. The reality is that they have been anti-communists from the start, they are an explicitly neoliberal project with the intent of grooming their users into neoliberalism, but this goal must remain secret so they couldn’t just say “we defederated from hexbear because they’re socialists”, hence the lies.
As you can probably imagine, this creates a lot of animosity here.
Anti-dunking inherently means pro-dogwhistle
Most of us became aware of them when they made an announcement in the midst of the Reddit exodus red scare accusing us of bigotry and hate speech, so our first broad impression was that they are (administrated by) fucking morons who are perfectly comfortable lying about other communities.
Since I don’t have any personal experience, I’m not sure, but maybe someone else will chime in. Certainly their reputation is for being aggressively liberal in the worst ways
Their instance sucks. They’re just libs with a massive civility fetish. The only credit I’ll give them is they at least aren’t trying to recreate Reddit without spez like the rest of the Ledditor instances. It actually would make sense for a civility fetish instance that doesn’t actually want to recreate Reddit to have second thoughts about staying on a shitty Reddit clone.