You can always tell who the most ignorant libs are when they bring up Crimea lmao
Crimea is not Ukrainian, it has always been a distinct cultural ethnic region and 97% of Crimeans voting for independence from Kiev should give you pause before you breathlessly insist they should remain beholden to a bunch of nazi banderites
“Acktually sweaty, don’t you know that if a vote has a higher than 80% yes vote, it’s automatically a sham? Every vote needs to be really close or else it doesn’t count and isn’t real democracy. Consensus isn’t democratic!”
the Russian federation is a reactionary bourgeois state that is a hollowed out shell of its former USSR self, but I dislike the hyperbole that it is “the Russian Empire”. Russia Today is neither the Russian empire, nor the Soviet Union. If anything it is closer politically to what it would have been if the February revolution had continued and the October revolution never happened: A bourgeois state.
Oh, I’ve been following the whole thing for years and know who she is.
I just don’t think that her supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform in Ukraine equates to it being okay for Russia to annex part of a neighbouring country.
Pro-democracy is when you ban left opposition but not fascists. Anti-corruption is when you have offshore accounts connected to the oligarch who funded said fascists that you used to work for on his TV program
The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelensky and his inner circle had offshore accounts connected to Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is an oligarch that owned the TV station Zelensky worked for prior. He also funded nazi militias that couped the government in 2014
democracy is when you elect zelensky on a platform of peace with russia but he lets the Right Sector and Azov continue to try the ethnic cleansing of eastern ukraine
Oh, so you’re saying that Russia illegally annexing Crimea in 2014 wasn’t an invasion of Ukraine?
You can always tell who the most ignorant libs are when they bring up Crimea lmao
Crimea is not Ukrainian, it has always been a distinct cultural ethnic region and 97% of Crimeans voting for independence from Kiev should give you pause before you breathlessly insist they should remain beholden to a bunch of nazi banderites
“Acktually sweaty, don’t you know that if a vote has a higher than 80% yes vote, it’s automatically a sham? Every vote needs to be really close or else it doesn’t count and isn’t real democracy. Consensus isn’t democratic!”
“Except for the Falklands, since it still counts when we do it”
Crimeans wanting independence means they wanted to become part of the Russian empire again?
the Russian federation is a reactionary bourgeois state that is a hollowed out shell of its former USSR self, but I dislike the hyperbole that it is “the Russian Empire”. Russia Today is neither the Russian empire, nor the Soviet Union. If anything it is closer politically to what it would have been if the February revolution had continued and the October revolution never happened: A bourgeois state.
Yes you dumb fuck, as a means of protection from the nazi captured Ukrainian army who would’ve otherwise bulldozed the small region
making it pretty obvious here that you have no idea who Victoria Nuland is and only started paying attention to any of this stuff in 2022
Oh, I’ve been following the whole thing for years and know who she is.
I just don’t think that her supporting pro-democratic and anti-corruption reform in Ukraine equates to it being okay for Russia to annex part of a neighbouring country.
democracy is when you pick the new officials yourself on a phone call with Geoffrey Pyatt
Pro-democracy is when you ban left opposition but not fascists. Anti-corruption is when you have offshore accounts connected to the oligarch who funded said fascists that you used to work for on his TV program
What are you referencing with the last part?
The Pandora Papers revealed that Zelensky and his inner circle had offshore accounts connected to Kolomoisky. Kolomoisky is an oligarch that owned the TV station Zelensky worked for prior. He also funded nazi militias that couped the government in 2014
Democracy is when you replace an elected leader with a pro-western one.
Liberal Democracy is all about giving Americans the right to vote in your countries elections.
democracy is when you elect zelensky on a platform of peace with russia but he lets the Right Sector and Azov continue to try the ethnic cleansing of eastern ukraine
Can you find Ukraine on a blank political map?
[laughs in Operation Aerodynamic]
Oh wow, really? A cold-war era campaign? You’re really pushing Putin’s talking points here.
history started in 2022
Lmao I refuse to believe you’ve ever heard or read about Vladmir Putin discussing that
Is this a joke? Pro democracy? Anti corruption? When has the US ever stood for that outside of propaganda purposes?