CyborgMarx [any, any]

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  • And even worse, any warlike species that does this would also probably attempt to reverse engineer their tech and now you’ve got a warlike, aggressive species with stolen warp drives or whatever, ready to make war on the rest of the galaxy.

    Some kind of self-defense would be a relatively minor addition to their mission and would be an important emergency necessity. Even out of date tech from their perspective could be centuries or millennia ahead of ours.

    I wonder if this is the crux of the potential political debate/crisis among the aliens

    I have no doubts the elites of earth would plunge the planet into nuclear Holocaust or at the very least WW3 in the face of any uplifting mission, the aliens may not necessarily be concerned with their own safety but rather the safety of the masses and ecosystems ruled by Earth elites

    Without a sizable occupation force instilling some form of rudimentary order post-intervention, many humans would be left at the mercy of rump states and imperial remnants, labeled “alien collaborators” and massacred en masse

    This would present a hell of a moral, logistical, and political challenge even for an advanced interstellar state, if they fuck this up Humanity and Earth could end up in an extremely mal-developed state for centuries or more









  • Yeah, it gets a lot of shit from other places, but it gets a lot of shit here, too. Lots of American jobs involve taking something imported and then processing it in some way (e.g. chip production) so it can be used for a higher-order function

    That’s true, but the US has far more capacity to exert control at home than abroad, it’s the weakest link that matters and can tip the scales, and all the weak links are overseas

    It’s impossible to become ungovernable if you’re dead or in prison, but it’s almost impossible for a state to guarantee that outcome if it’s reeling from a collapsed military infrastructure


  • The debate is largely mute, climate change guarantees revolutionary conditions one way or another (whether that revolution is successful is another story)

    But for an American revolution to materialize in any way, shape or form the overseas empire has to fall FIRST, for the simple reason the overseas imperial complex empowers and materially sustains the overwhelming security state at home

    There is no American org (potential or actual) that can overcome the might of 18 intelligence agencies, 5 bloated military branches, 1,000,000 heavily armed police officers and a reserve of at least 100 million potential brownshirts

    It’s ironic, the US is in this specific aspect firmly a one-to-one with Czarist Russia, only a catastrophic overseas defeat can open the path toward revolution and even then 50 White Armies will spring up to meet the revolution