• yarr@feddit.nl
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    23 minutes ago

    I fucking HATE these clickbait headlines. Read the dang article and look at the quotes:

    “I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it— to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,” he said during the broadcast. (emphasis added)

    RFK is a total whackjob, but it’s pretty clear he’s talking about some kind of voluntary “farm therapy” (which probably isn’t demonstrably effective anyway) and not a concentration camp.

    PLEASE we got enough bombastic language and clickbait over the Biden years. There are PLENTY of things wrong with the actual quote above without taking us into clickbait territory.

    Let’s criticize him on the grounds of being scientific but proposing very un-scientific actions. Let’s criticize him for proposing ineffective solutions, but please, focus on his ACTUAL statement instead of trying to fluff it into some goddamn headline.

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      Stop fucking sane washing him. “If they want to” is a dubious statement coming from anyone in this authoritarian administration.

      The fact that he brings up “reparenting”, it seems fairly obvious that this is going to be done by authority of the state. He’s talking about taking people’s kids away from them if they medicate their children as recommended by their doctors.

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    Fuck that.

    I strongly dislike how the argument hinges on the very movable goalpost of “illegal” drugs. It has this awful moralizing “protect the kids while we destroy privacy”, vibe to it.

    At first I though this would require an end-run on HIPAA, but all they really need to do is re-schedule a bunch of therapeutic drugs. Or ignore the FDA entirely and just enforce a ban by edict (somehow) through a different agency. I don’t think we’ve ever seen federal agencies openly disagree like that before, but I think it’s possible. Also: big pharma may have something to say about all this.

    Like a lot of the nonsense coming from this cabinet, it’ll test the crap out of state’s rights.

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    So they’re just already saying the “camps” part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler’s playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

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    2 hours ago

    When it comes to the brainworm guy - if he really plans on banning vaccines - is he trying to kill off all the old people? Is he trying to kill off all the children?

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    I am not fan of RFK or any of this incoming administration, but I have to admit…those are going to be the most productive camps in the entire world! 🤣

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    This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with “trouble teens”. In recent years I’ve seen reports of these “farms” for “distressed” women. It’s usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

    Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

    https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

    https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

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      Are these the same people that abduct teens at night and bring them to these camps where they die of dehydration?

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    5 hours ago

    Is he not aware that the fascist pumpkin he will be working for pops those like breath mints?? Please do send that rapist con man to a labor camp.

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    Yeah, I already started weaning myself off my depression meds. Went cold turkey once, and that was a nightmare. They’re planning to kill the VA, so fuck our service. I’m never getting cut off again. I’ll switch to natural alternatives, thank you.

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      4 hours ago

      Probably still easy to get from Mexico. Your mental health is important and shits about to get a whole lot more depressing

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    And a tax on cannabis sales would fund these farms, he proposed.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but… is he really suggesting a federal tax on a federally illegal substance?

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      You hope he is just being clever and indirectly talking about legalizing cannabis, but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

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        but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

        The reality is he’s very well educated and an overall intelligent person. His views are pure malice, not stupidity. Don’t be a dunce and underestimate him

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            Dude thinks the guy who stares at eclipses and changes hurricanes with a sharpie is smart lmfao. Wow

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                They think the guy who straps a whale head to the top of his car and drives home with it is smart.

                He also thought COVID was engineered to not hurt Asians and only Ashkenazi Jews. I’m not sure what kind of education these rich brats get but it definitely doesn’t make them smart.

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      Correct me if I’m wrong but are you pretending you don’t know the war on drugs to be utter bullshit that’s damaging society?

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        The war on drugs is bullshit, but the fact is that the US government still considers it a schedule 1 drug. My point is that they shouldn’t be able to tax it while still pretending that it should be illegal.

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          Well no the hypocrisy shouldn’t exist, that I agree with.

          But I’d rather have taxation from cannabis while enduring the annoying hypocrisy rather than not have taxed cannabis and still listen to the hypocrisy.

          The legal situation in the US is kinda weird. You can go to a legal shop to buy legal weed and when you walk out a federal agent might arrest you.

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      I imagine a terrible, awful future Forest Gump remake.

      “They had these camps that helped folks with their concentration or something like that. They said I was a shine-ning example, so I got to meet the president of the United States, again.”

      “They tell me this guy is the best example. Got treated, got rich in shrimp. What a guy! Our camps are great, the best camps in all the world.”

      Camera pans to Trump shaking hands with Kim Jong Un.

      “In Korea, everybody got these pic-tures of their leader on the wall. We got those in Alabama too.”