While I’ve been considering buying a brand new PC and mobile phone (for absolutely no reason whatsoever; totally a coinkidink that I considered it at this point in time), I decided to also look up what China’s own operating system was (because obviously they would have their own operating system; why would they make absolutely everything else and NOT make their own operating system?) and I was like ‘ooooh, that looks cool! This Kylin OS!’ only to watch a video expounding on it and revealing it’s a Linux based operating system.

Hexbear Linux users are to China what Israel is to America CMV

I just want a normal operating system where I double click an app to activate or install it, and it has full functionality no ifs and or buts with my OS, and I can rightclick and get all the necessary functionalities of rightclicking.

sudo install better OS

Stupid dressed up DOS like operating system; yeah cause I really want to type up lines of instructions to do what windows can do with a double click; cause I want to spend two hours googling how to install non-Linux compatible software on Linux, and then spend two hours finding out why the solution didn’t work making me feel like Indiana Jones excavating cursed ruins for a treasure you could’ve gotten at Walmart.

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    18 hours ago

    I just want a normal operating system where I double click an app to activate or install it

    If you’re an average user then this is how you should be installing all of your apps on Linux, using your distro or DE’s app manager. If an app you want isn’t listed there, then you should find an alternative that is.

    For example if you’re using KDE Plasma then your default “store” app is going to be Discover and you use it just like you would the Microsoft/Apple/Google stores.

    If you’re trying to run non-Linux compatible software on Linux, then you need to understand that that’s a more advanced task, just like running Mac software on Windows would be. If you absolutely require that software, then you would be better served by that operating system.

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    21 hours ago

    I’m so lost in the Linux sauce that whenever I have to use a windows computer I want to bash my head in. Plus KDE has the cube and wobbly windows which are essential for productivity.

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    it has full functionality no ifs and or buts with my OS, and I can rightclick and get all the necessary functionalities of rightclicking.

    This is really funny because I’ve been hearing complaints about the Windows right click menu ever since 11 dropped

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    Linux is like if people frustrated with other airlines started their own. They build the planes, ticket counters, and pave the runways themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of printing the ticket, but you can also download and print the ticket yourself. When you board the plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time without a single problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to tell customers of the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is, “You had to do what with the seat?”

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    Just use Linux, it’s not actually as difficult to get working out of the box as people make it out to be. I was a computer noob when I got my first Linux distribution (debian with plasma kde) and it took me an hour to do everything (including googling). Not much longer than the time it takes to install windows.

    And once you install a distribution of Linux with a decent desktop environment, you are pretty much good to go. Any functionality, shortcuts, automation that you want to add can usually be added and removed as needed, for free and relatively easily.

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    Just use Bazzite, works out of the box, basically doesn’t break, is very up-to-date, comes with KDE which is similar enough to Windows but can do so much more and install anything you need from the app store. It also has the ability to install from other ways and the documentation for it is decent enough on their forums.

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      Bazzite (and atomic/immutable distributions in general) are really neat, but I personally avoid recommending them to first time Linux users because if they end up searching for a solution to a problem they’re having on the internet, the top solutions that pop up in their search engine most likely not going to be what they’re looking for or even work. Explaining the concepts of an immutable distribution and things like rpm-ostree to someone new to Linux can be quite the challenge and turn them off because of they’ll most likely interpret it as unnecessary complexity to achieve a simple goal.

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        I get what you’re saying and I would definitely agree in the case of Fedora Silverblue/Kinoite. I specifically said Bazzite because it is specifically made to be as hassle free as possible while also providing a lot out of the box.

        If someone needs help there’s a dedicated forum for that, documentation and also a Discord server. It can be more complex in some areas for troubleshooting, but it is also big enough to the point where you can get help if needed.

        Bazzite has been the smoothest experience I ever had on Linux since I started using it in 2018 when Proton launched. I even use it on my main computer and laptop.

        If I had to recommend a non atomic distro the only ones would be Solus and Nobara, but on Nobara you need to keep an eye on their Discord because of manual interventions every now and then.

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          I’ve never used Bazzite personally, only seen a couple of videos about it and have some prior experience with messing around with Ublue images, so I can’t really comment on Bazzite specifically shrug-outta-hecks. If their forums are active and friendly towards people with questions, I guess go for it! penguin-love

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    Of course it will be Linux based, building an entire operating system, especially one acceptable by today’s standards, is a ton of work. Not something you do over a few months with a small team of dedicated engineers. Linux serves as a great starting point to (relatively) quickly build a very usable desktop operating system that can be fully independent from the rest of the world if it so desires to be.

    I’d definitely recommend trying something like Fedora, it’s a great distribution for beginners and comes with everything you’d need out of the box to just go about your day and you can try it out and mess around with it without actually installing it to your system. You can install software & update your system with a graphical interface, you can manage your files with a graphical interface, and you can change pretty much every setting that matters with a graphical interface. It’s not as scary as you may think and I promise you will most likely never need to “type up lines of instructions to do what Windows can do with a double click”. Want to install Element (the Matrix client) for example? Open up the GNOME software center, search “Element”, click install, done.

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    I just want a normal operating system where I double click an app to activate or install it, and it has full functionality no ifs and or buts with my OS, and I can rightclick and get all the necessary functionalities of rightclicking.

    None of the OS do this in 2024 btw. Windows 11 definitely doesn’t do this with right-clicking since they hide so much shit in the second right-click menu lmao.

    I want Windows but from China; I’m planning on buying a new PC soon and decided I’m getting one from there and thought I’d get a Chinese OS to go with it but had hoped to find Chinese Windows basically.

    Windows is proprietary software, so people don’t have access to the source code outside of leaks from really old versions of Windows that no one uses anymore. An open-source version of Windows has been in development since 1998 and has little to show for it all these decades later. There will never be a Chinese Windows unless Microsoft releases the source code.