I’ll say it once again: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.
It didn’t matter because, as the recent ruling shows us, we live in a fucking bourgeois dictatorship!
I’ll say it once again: Hillary Clinton won the popular vote.
Libs never remember this when they’re scolding the people who they believe didn’t
hard enough
We live in the present, we confront the problems of the present.
But the democrats? they never came home from the horrors of 2016.
Oh fuck, serously Contra? Jesus christ.
I’m not surprised. Natalie is the archetype of that one problematic girl on your biggest trans discord that you’ve blocked ages ago but you can’t stop clicking on her bad takes. Not getting into all the internal struggle sessions of the trans community here, so let’s just leave it at the fact that she’s been an out and proud anti-communist turbo lib since the 2020 electoral cycle and that she’s been on some weird interview format hosted by Hillary and Chelsea Clinton.
she’s been on some weird interview format hosted by Hillary and Chelsea Clinton.
she’s been on some weird interview format hosted by Hillary and Chelsea Clinton.
Lord, I’m glad I stopped watching her after 2020. She fell
She’s stanning her bestie rn
The Democrats never came home from the horrors of 1972, I regret to say. The subsequent history of the Democratic Party is shaped by the fear that somehow George McGovern might get nominated.
God i hate contrapoints
Someone who should know better, probably does and decided to ride the grift
Definitely the picture of fuck you got mine
It’s a tongue-in-cheek comment. If you honestly think someone would unironically say the Pokemon line, you really need to touch grass.
Tongue my cheeks
I clearly meant it as an insult not an invitation. Get me my lawyer
We need a Lionel hutz emoji as well
lemmy users not be humongous libs challenge impossible
It’s a grad user, but they still deserve to be mocked in this case
potayto patato
Lemmygrad has been around longer than Hexbear and if anything they’re less lib
they aren’t sending their best folks
Ayyyyy fuck you! What I’d do to you to lump me in with that filth dumbass?
Their account is a month old and they don’t have pronouns in their display name, so I think they can be lumped in with the rest of Lemmy and not us still
Um?
One of the first NATO-leftists to really grow a decently sized audience
I feel awful that I used to watch her.
Everytime I think of what a liberal is, she comes to my mind.
don’t worry about it, she became more lib as she got rich and (relatively) famous
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Natalie Wynn and James Somerton are exactly why I don’t claim white queers without actually knowing and vetting them
Some of the worst shit I’ve ever heard was from queer people who immediately retorted with “It’s fine, I’m gay”
Which, so am I, and also fuck you for trying to shield yourself with that
Some of the worst shit I’ve ever heard was from queer people who immediately retorted with “It’s fine, I’m gay”
I’m convinced this is what spurs the Three No’s queers to never once self-crit their fuckery tbh
Three no’s?
Something I used to frequently see (98% of the time on a white gay’s profile) back when I still had the tolerance for Grindr. “No Blacks, no fats, no fems”; sometimes they’d substitute Black for any other subset they considered undesirable, sometimes they’d get cute about “no rice, no spice”; but it’s all bigotry at the core
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I’ve seen that plenty. I want to respect people have preferences but that whole vibe always felt icky to me. I never talked to people like that though so never thought about it much.
To me, ‘preferences’ were always like-- where I’m concerned, I prefer dallying with creatives; I prefer painters, musicians, and sculptors; I prefer people who are well-read. While I can respect some types of preference, the ones I don’t respect are the ones that smell like “nah, you don’t have a preference; you’re just saying that so a Black person-- or even just a person with exceptionally dark skin-- can’t romantically get close to you”.
That just reeks of uninvestigated bigotry to me-- and note; I don’t say this as a ‘we should be able to hook up’ kind of thing-- if anything, I don’t believe the uninvestigated bigot deserves to be with anyone, really.
I want to respect people have preferences but that whole vibe always felt icky to me.
Speaking to the subject of “racial preferences” generally since I’m a het:
So long as we’re dealing in a paradigm where physical attraction to things like facial features is to be expected (i.e. all of human existence so far and for the foreseeable future), there is going to be bias in a given individual towards and against certain races, e.g. some races have more prominent jawlines on average. These things simply will have racial correlates.
However, that is many layers removed from what we are seeing here. There is a profound difference between “I like narrower noses” and “If you’re black, swipe left” because, among many other things, these are averages and not cookie-cutter predetermined features (e.g. you will get people of all races each with widely varying nose widths). There is a substantial extent to which preferences for certain features will have racial correlates, but that doesn’t mean the preference is itself racialized. If you’re putting “no blacks” in your bio, you are obviously and openly operating from a racialized paradigm, and that deniability is out the window. You’re just a bigot.
The stumbling block for this issue on Hexbear is usually the following: Something does not need to be explicitly racist to be racist. You can be racist without thinking to yourself that you hold races in different regard. Your preferences can “just happen” to be for someone with blonde hair, blue eyes, alabaster skin, a Hellenic nose, etc. but wow, isn’t it such a coincidence that your preferences, which clearly just fell into your head from a coconut tree, just happen to perfectly line up with Aryanism? Even though the number of people you’ve known in your life with these features all together might be very, very, low? It’s just a crazy coincidence that you can go to some college campuses when they are in session and see genuinely the majority of girls have their hair dyed roughly the same color blonde.
It turns out someone’s aesthetic sensibilities can be informed by implicit racial ideology as well. In America, it’s overwhelmingly Aryanism, and therefore Aryanism is popular in many other countries as well (along with the countries that were innovators in it, like Germany), but I’m sure there are other racialized ideals in other societies that are similarly pervasive, I’m just not familiar with them.
Sorry, I just wanted to rant about this again.
Ah, my guess was way off then!
Might be thinking about the reactionary, TERF, and female separatist group from Bad Korea? That actually has “Four Nos,” though.
The feeling that I can’t be included in a lot of queer events and spaces simply because I have to fear about my race causing problems for LGBT crackkkers is very depressing. On top of that, I have a “niche” queer identity (non-binary and pansexual) as opposed to one of the more common identities that liberals will bring up to performatively speak on how “inclusive” they are (e.g. cisgender gay men/cisgender lesbians).
The transmisogynoir problem is deeply frustrating too. You have some TERFy bioessentialist queer people who view transfeminine people as a “threat” to queer cis women, then you couple that with the fact that I’m black, a people perceived as “dangerous, violent, and aggressive,” and this all leads to reactionary LGBT people who will try to avoid and exclude me at all costs for “”““safety reasons.””“”
and this all leads to reactionary LGBT people
But y’know, as soon as they’re the ones being threatened, it’s “oh, we need to come together, we need you to do the emotional labor for us so we can throw you to the side as soon as the rain passes” bullshit. I feel you, homie; that’s another substantial chunk of why I just don’t fuck with white queers. I’d fw ballroom folks if I lived anywhere near any of the hotspots; from what I’ve seen of it, that feels like what our gay culture should be.
Let the crackers have their parades with corporate logos every two feet and a cop for every dangling peckerwood; they already done forgot their ‘parades’ were our riots in the first place. I’d rather have warehouse parties with the most flamboyant of those who’d live loudly in their truth.
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we should have voted for the person who wanted trump to win his primary and helped that happen so that she could beat trump instead of lose to a monster of her own creation
Hilldawg would have gone full Cersei “Gambo Thrones” Lannister the nanosecond that the SCOTUS ruled that the President has immunity from prosecution for official acts. The drones would have already been in the air before the ink on the page was even dry.
They would have been flying to Gaza, however
Shit. Is that contrapoints? 😬
Haven’t seen much from them in a minute but looks like they aren’t doing great
She has literally always been like this
Haven’t seen much from her in a minute but looks like she isn’t doing great
Remember when ContraPoints compared her fans to kiwifarms users after calling her out for collaborating with buck angel?
…yeah
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Natalie Lost
Wait, hold on, what? She what?!
Hillary Clinton was a major proponent in the overthrow of Gaddafi.
Libya was actually one of the best-performing countries in Africa under his socialist leadership (perhaps “socialist” isn’t a totally correct term; he was… unfriendly to communists and didn’t side with the USSR during the Cold War, but in practice there are similarities between his policies and socialist ones), but his anti-imperialist stance and material support for anti-US groups brought sanctions to Libya. This was especially problematic given that the socialist policies that Gaddafi enacted were funded largely by oil, and so sanctions on that oil was a critical weakness. Things deteriorated inside Libya during the 80s/90s but eventually Libya and the West came to an agreement to open things back up. Now in a post-USSR world and concurrent with US wars in the Middle East not far from him, opportunities for supporting anti-imperialist militant groups were rarer, so he focussed more on a grand project of African political and economic unity against American imperialism, such as the creation of an singular African currency which would have been called the “gold dinar”, as well as a single African passport and a singular African army. These efforts towards de-dollarization are, in hindsight, among the first rumblings of the dollar’s downfall in the period after the 2008/9 financial crash (authors such as Radhika Desai were writing about how this crisis portended a coming multipolarity a full 8 years before the Russia-Ukraine war, when serious discussions of it began).
The Arab Spring was quickly used against him by America, with NATO offering their support to anti-Gaddafi rebels as well as bombing factories. When Gaddafi was murdered, Libya plunged into a civil war that rages to this very day, creating widespread poverty in the chaotic aftermath and, indeed, slavery. While Obama and others in the establishment have expressed some regret over how things turned out, it’s clearly not serious enough regret to impact policy, given that the US still loves to spread war and bomb countries that oppose them.
The message here is to adopt a more internationalist stance. Many liberals in the general public are unfamiliar with the atrocious foreign policies that many politicians implicitly or explicitly support. The most monstrous liberals even support those atrocities. If you ignore these policies, one could almost convince themselves that Clinton and others weren’t really that bad; sure, a little old-fashioned, a little too capitalist, but the only reason why you could be filled with utter hatred of her is because of a Russian disinformation campaign funded by Trump or whatever. Knowing her history reveals her to be a heartless ghoul up there with Kissinger. Biden has a similar history, but there’s even less of an excuse for supporting him, because many of his worst policies were and are domestic and the genocide he is supporting is literally ongoing. And lesser evilism is an unviable strategy; we’ve been trying it for decades and things have consistently gotten worse. The implicit argument is that we have to endure the lesser evil for now, but at some point the government/president can be pushed left and things will actually start improving rather than just getting worse slower. This point has never arrived despite many years of trying, and people versed in Marxism and leftist theory more generally are completely unsurprised about this, while (usually white) liberals continue to fall for the trap and derangedly claim that you’re actually racist if you don’t vote for the person who is building walls on the border in a continuation of Trump’s policies, boosting police budgets, and bombing countries that are trying to stop the genocide of 2 million Palestinians.
Thanks for doing the text version. I was lazy and linked a video. Gaddafi was a hero and I will yell that at people forever.
The &pp=blahblah part can be used to track you, although that’s not yet conclusive. But as an aside, by decoding the base64 people can see that you potentially searched “hakim libya” to get that. You can just remove &pp and everything after it
K
We should add a feature to the site that filters trackers.
i’ve been asking but i think they’re either underestimating the threat or they’re a certain three letter word that i cant use otherwise the comment would be removed for fedjacketing
I still maintain if Hillary had won we would’ve invaded Venezuela
If you don’t like her support of Pokemon Black market dealings, you’ll be put to the Pokemon Sword
Putting the accent mark in the e in Pokemon
Jesus Christ, she really is this insufferable. Can’t imagine being stuck in a room with her for anywhere longer than 5 minutes.
There’s this one bit from Chomsky that is really good and it’s this - you can tell what the opinion of the masses is towards the government when it comes to pay taxes.
To stretch that a little bit further, you can tell how enthusiastic people feel about their political candidates by how many of them go out and vote.
Instead of yelling at people to vote, start yelling at the government to pass legislation to make voting more accessible (in particular making it a public holiday on voting day) and start yelling at your political party of choice to start running candidates and election platforms that people feel enthusiastic about supporting. Or don’t and let your shit hole country collapse. Either are acceptable options as far as I’m concerned.
