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Star Trek fans have held the national stereotype of being way too rabid about things for decades but they’re probably the nicest fan base in all of science fiction and the one least likely to have a large faction of them absolutely lose it over a torpedo being fired by a woman or dumb shit like that

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  • Bappity@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    anyone that tries to say star trek has “gone woke” or some stupid shit like that clearly isn’t a fan of it and just trying to rile up stuff. I mean come on… how can someone say that and have watched the shows LOL

    • pleasejustdie@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      Yeah, its not like Star Trek suddenly went woke, its been woke. First ever TV kiss between mixed races was between Kirk and Uhura. Scandalous.

      • rufus@discuss.tchncs.de
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        And they’re not even that woke. Afaik they still ocasionally eat animals in the 24th century. (Unless they’re Vulcan.) Watch The Orville if you want some proper progressive shit 😆

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          They have food replicators. The only thing not vegan about replicated meat is that they’d probably use your poop as bulk material to synthesize stuff

          • rufus@discuss.tchncs.de
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            Yeah they have. But don’t they go on to tell in several episodes of all of the shows, how someones mom makes/made the best X/Y out of real ingredients and how much better that tastes than replicated food? And they eat on some planets with other people or on vacation… ?!

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            I don’t think the Star Trek replicator use raw materials to produce stuff. I’m pretty sure it’s just energy converted into matter.

          • tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
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            Pretty ure I saw Riker cooking with eggs at some point. And who knows what neelix gets up to in the galley

              • ameancow@lemmy.world
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                poop meat.

                Knowing how chemicals and carbon compounds are recycled in Earth’s ecosystem and taking into account factory farming, I would wager the line between poop to serving of hot steak is much a much less connected line on a ship that turns matter into its constituent energy patterns.

                Meanwhile on Earth we routinely have meat recalls because of e-coli contamination. Which is poop. Everyone is eating animal poop to some degree, it just becomes a problem when enough of it is in one spot to become contamination.

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                  The replicators are also used to “recycle”, converting matter into energy, to be used for future replication.

                  I doubt they were hauling poop through space rather than converting it to poop energy for their next earl grey.

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                    5 months ago

                    This is the whole premise behind Star Trek, and one form a post-scarcity civilization could take.

                    As a tangent, Star Trek’s technology is both magical and primitive, in that they can harness and focus energy levels that match stars routinely, they can literally form matter from raw energy and influence the fabric of time and space itself and even break causality if they really try, but despite this have almost no difference in how they are born, grow up and die.

                    I get the show is trying to make a relatable universe, but if we reach that level, we will also have reached so many other advancements in every other facet of existing as a human that our species itself would be utterly unrecognizable and we probably wouldn’t be worried about how real our steaks taste.

            • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
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              True! Forgot about that. I think voyager had a few episodes with hunted game of some sort. The Klingons in general too. Guess actually trek isn’t super big on veganism haha

        • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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          Watch The Orville if you want some proper progressive shit 😆

          You mean like “agree to date me or else I’ll date the younger clone of you?”

          • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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            Specifically why I said black/white. and peck on the cheek isn’t consider a “kiss” by most people. (although it probably caused a stir). This was also right in the middle of the black civil rights movement which made it that much more risky.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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              Okay then, you’ll have to go with Sammy again and Nancy Sinatra:

              That would have been in 1967. Plato’s Stepchildren was a year later.

              On top of that, you have to further specify that this is only on American TV, because Gordon Heath kissed Rosemary Harris in a production of Othello on the BBC in 1955.

              • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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                5 months ago

                Sorry you only get one shot at being pedantic, after that it just gets sad. (Even if you may be technically right)

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                  Do you think insulting a mod will go well for you? And congratulations for proving the above meme incorrect about Star Trek being the nicest fan base.

                  Showing you that a passionate kiss between a white woman and a black woman happened on British television over a decade before Star Trek is not being pedantic. You were just wrong.

                  • Godric@lemmy.world
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                    Holy shit a MOD??? They insulted a MOD???

                    I’m so sorry milord, I can’t believe they had the audacity to insult your modliness in such an insolent manner!

                    May they feel the mighty unchecked wrath of someone who has ban power on a small online community and know the error of their ways

                  • Crashumbc@lemmy.world
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                    5 months ago

                    I didn’t know you were a “MOD” omg !!! And no it wouldn’t change my completely accurate comment. You were being pedantic and came back for another try after your first one missed.

                    And now you think threatening me with your “modhood” is a good thing? or how a mod should behave in any way? Seriously how petty can you get? That’s just outright childish.

          • Norah - She/They@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            And of course it shall always be the first kiss between a black woman and a white man in space on tv.

            I cracked up a bit at this. That was a great write up, I didn’t know before about Desilu’s involvement in making that kiss happen and their earlier milestone, that’s quite cool.