• NABDad@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The nice thing about Linux is, he can’t buy it and fuck it up.

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          Let me put it to you this way.

          Elon Musk fanboys, now running arch.

          Just… Let that simmer for a minute.

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            Anyone smart enough to run Arch is smart enough to recognize Elon is an imbecile.

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                But do you recognize Musk as an imbecile? If you do you’re smarter than you think.

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                Take it from me, people who openly say they’re idiots usually aren’t. Socrates: I now know I know nothing.

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              you literally have to run installation script or follow instructions from arch wiki. slap some de to it and you’re good. doesn’t take a smart person to do.

              to properly maintain it for longer periods forever though, takes some more skill.

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              Maybe nowadays, with Elon’s imbecility so publicly visible.

              I’ve run Arch for close to 10 years, and was pretty jazzed by Musk in the early days of his presiding over Tesla and Space X. Then again, I was barely an adult at the time, and I hadn’t yet come across the first reports of terrible working conditions and his overall shittyness as a manager/exec.

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                A lot of people forget how overwhelmingly, insanely popular Musk was with way too online nerds. He was reddit’s golden child for years. Part of this is that whenever Disney started releasing the Marvel movies, beginning with Iron Man, Musk was front and center as the core inspiration for Tony Stark (yes, I’m serious, the director and Robert Downey Jr. basically went on record as saying as much) and he fucking milked that shit. It’s also important to understand that for a time he was seen as a forward looking entrepreneur whose business was “going to help save the planet by making electric cars so popular that every car manufacturer would switch to electric vehicle production to keep up.” If Musk was a genius at one thing, it was manipulating public perception of himself and his enterprises. It took years of him being a thin-skinned weirdo and massive corporate tool to undo the amount of positive sentiment he’d built for himself and Tesla.

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      You say that, but I’ll be more than willing to try and sell him a copy of the source code.

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        Chromium was, however, a Google product from the very beginning that Google open-sourced themselves. Linux is too big with too many non-profit and for-profit companies and tons of independent individuals participating in its development for one person or company to control it outright.

        I mean, sure, for profit companies like Red Hat, SUSE, Canonical do have some influence but not so much that you can’t ignore their contributions if you don’t like them.

        For example, some ubuntu based distros (i.e Mint) circumvent snap from being installed the ubuntu way (without asking) because it goes against their philosophy. And if that’s still too much Ubuntu for you, there’s a Debian Edition of mint. And if that’s still too same-y for you, there are dozens of other distros based on slackware, rhel/fedora, arch, Gentoo, etc. There even are Linux distros without GNU.

        So, unless Muskiboy buys Linus Torvalds, I think the Linux community could easily ignore him building his own xOS.

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    Put your money where your mouth is and open source the Tesla software. Do it. I fuckin’ dare ya.

    Edit: we want Falcon 9’s landing guidance software too.

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      Open sourcing the falcon 9 software would almost definitely be a violation of ITAR… On second thought it would be fun to see him go to prison.

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          That’s like saying state secrets are protected under the 1st lol

          I don’t think it’s true

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              While courts have ruled source code is first amendment protected. Your statement is still very very wrong. Just because it’s first amendment protected doesn’t mean it can’t be classified normally or made illegal to leak because of ITAR.

              But go leak some of the source code from XKeyscore or a schematic of a pair of GPNVG if you’d like to test our code classification and ITAR systems.

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                I’m not taking about sealing some government secrets. I’m taking about building a fun hobby project with some sort of targeting system. Think a small rocket that drops a payload or a water balloon launcher.

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                  Okay but that has no relevance at all to what the comment you were replying to was about. Companies contracted by the government and DOD specifically to create rockets are guaranteed to be covered by ITAR. Meaning open sourcing them would be impossible, regardless of the first amendment or anything else.

                  There’s a massive massive difference between the software for a DOD contracted rocket like SpaceX makes, and hobbyist rocketry.

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      I want a world where anyone can go to space. It the thing I wanna do the most. But I’m not rich and I’m no super smart and I have awful health.

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      Do you really want countries like North Korea, Iran and China having access to software that would certainly be used for missile guidance?

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        Why not. If everyone has it, everyone will be afraid to use it, because they know everyone else has it, but what they don’t know is how many have developed a working prototype.

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          Ehh, mutually assured destruction has worked so far, but there are some crazy assholes out there who might not act rationally.

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      No this dipshit just says whatever he thinks is going to be the most popular with the tech bros he is desperate to be in front of.

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        It’s an expression. In this context Elon is the broken clock and saying desktops should run Linux is one of the rare times he’s been right about something.

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          rare times he’s been right about something.

          Started a space company, and an EV company. Both longshots, both wildly successful.

          Bought Twitter. Laid of 80% of the employees. Still runs totally fine.

          Your position is nakedly indefensible. I’d be curious what you think he’s actually wrong about.

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    Welp, off to macOS now. Sorry guys I can’t be a part of this community anymore.

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      He’ll get sued by Apple for infringing on their OS X trademark, and he’ll invent laws claiming he’s in the right, and he’ll lose billions, and then he’ll claim he invented Linux and he’s a genius.

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        I kind of want to see this go down. There are a few companies you don’t fuck with. Apple is definitely one of them. I am sure their lawyers are just as smart and soulless as Disney’s

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        Musk has been using x.com since the Mac OS 8 days.

        He’d easily have prior rights.

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          He sold it into PayPal, then bought it back from PayPal a couple years ago.

          Not sure how trademarks work, but I think it gets stickier when it’s used for different purposes. like how there’s Starcraft trailers and the game.

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      Unfortunately, XOS has already been taken by Infinix, a budget phone brand that primarily sells in Africa, for its own ad-riddled bloated Android skin.

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      Is it going to be a Ubuntu from though? I can see his engineers coming to him saying we should fork Ubuntu for many very good reasons. Then he does to much ketamine and then tells them to use DistroX, because the X

      (I can’t actually tell if DistroX is real. I could only find one reference to it. But hey is that going to stop Musk)

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        As the CEO of Linux, I’ve had long and intense discussions with Mr Musk about the future of the company if he were to buy it, and I have come to the conclusion that he is a very good and smart businessman. There is no doubt on my mind that our company will thrive under his competent leadership. The Linux Corporation™ is therefore proud to announce that we have decided to accept his gracious offer of 69 billion US dollars, payable in $100 Google Play gift cards.

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          You forgot to tell them that our head office is…

          300 Funston Ave, San Francisco, CA 94118

          …and all the play cards should be sent there!

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    Elon just tries to get approval by finding a dominate opinion among a group of people and parroting back what they say and want. Kinda obvious and pathetic.

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      I think you are probably right in a way… Remember how android started as a weird Linux kernel (supposedly, rumors ran around at the time)? But today android is a piece of shit that everyone is enslaved on, and Linux still rules. That’s because you can’t be a dumbass windows user and just become a Linux user overnight. Well I guess it takes like 5 minutes to install, but you might end up frustrated staring at a screen. There’s lots to learn before you can get comfortable. Else android…or like me, Ubuntu. Sorry to Linux, but Ubuntu is where I gave up trying to recompile X for the 200th time.

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          I really appreciate Linus trying to tone down the nastiness in his replies over the years, but I’d be willing to let almost anything slide if it means getting a proper, old-school Torvalds tear-down of Musk.