You can read it that way, or that they report higher pain intensity, or that they have been refused medication in the past so are likely to exaggerate in order to get what they need.
The problem is we don’t have an objective way to measure pain. We can control the stimulus, but is it possible that one person experiences pain differently from others. By aggregating data you can find trends among populations. Hiding this information doesn’t serve anyone.
Knowing what groups tend to over/state pain is useful. The format they show it in is offensive, some straight up graphs and numbers showing what the trends are would be better.
Knowing what groups tend to over/state pain is useful
So let me get this straight, you think there are ethnic groups out there as an aggregate that “overstate” pain? You really think that’s a fuckin phenomenon that exists, did I hear you right?
I believe, in aggregate, data can show trends. The cause of these trends is not always clear. Using this example, if it is true that black people, on average report a higher pain number for similar incidents when compared to a different group, that doesn’t mean they are lying. It could be that there is a genetic marker that indicates experiencing pain at a higher level. It could mean that past experience with doctors have taught them they need to state their needs as dire to get the care they need. It could mean that more black people can’t afford healthcare and as such only go when it is more severe. It may be a cultural phenomena, like how in Britain “man flu” is considered a thing.
I don’t believe data says people are lying, I believe data can show a trend. I feel that it is good to be aware of data.
This isn’t an issue of data, it’s an issue of racist drivel being presented as medical science, people in this thread have already presented the actual data for your “questions” and surprise! Yes medical professionals are trained to expect black people to lie about pain because they’re literally taught black people don’t experience pain, THAT’S THE REAL WORLD DATA
See we’re dealing with the dire reality of racism in the medical field and you think it’s simply an issue of not having data, one: we already have the data, two: racists don’t give a fuck about data, that’s why the black category can only be read as “they’re lying” because the rest of the categories are filled with indefensible bigotry and cartoonish caricatures, that reveals the mindset of the editor and author of the section, as such they cannot be treated as any sort of reliable transmitter of inferred data, especially when the real data contradicts their racist assertions
I believe that racism is a problem, especially in medicine. I think that there are many groups who are discriminated medical professionals.
I don’t think the information is presented in a good way. But I think it’s important to look at this information. Racists don’t care about what the data says, that doesn’t mean it isn’t important for sane people to see the data. It’s like the infamous crime statistic, where the conclusion racists draw is black people are not only more likely to commit crime but they are also bad and will be caught, as opposed to thinking for one brief second that the issue is one of unfair enforcement.
I think that suppression of knowledge isn’t a good course. Obviously the information was presented in a poor fashion, but there is a difference between it just being racism and being really bad at showing data. But presenting findings can’t be considered racist, taking findings out of context can be.
I swear in one ear out the other, real sus shit from our little lemm.ee visitor, there is no “findings” to be presented, there is no “context” to massage the racist drivel in that book, it’s all garbage, the actual data (that has already been posted in this thread, which you have ignored) contradicts everything in that trash section
It’s not about presentation, there is no “good” fashion for displaying racism, the information itself is bogus and cartoonishly bigoted, how this isn’t obvious to you speaks volumes about your ignorance concerning racial subjects, but hey you’re so I guess I have to grade you on a curve
Isn’t this code for “they’re faking it”? Holy shit.
What book is this from?
You can read it that way, or that they report higher pain intensity, or that they have been refused medication in the past so are likely to exaggerate in order to get what they need.
The problem is we don’t have an objective way to measure pain. We can control the stimulus, but is it possible that one person experiences pain differently from others. By aggregating data you can find trends among populations. Hiding this information doesn’t serve anyone.
Knowing what groups tend to over/state pain is useful. The format they show it in is offensive, some straight up graphs and numbers showing what the trends are would be better.
We found the author lmao
So let me get this straight, you think there are ethnic groups out there as an aggregate that “overstate” pain? You really think that’s a fuckin phenomenon that exists, did I hear you right?
I meant to type over/under state.
I believe, in aggregate, data can show trends. The cause of these trends is not always clear. Using this example, if it is true that black people, on average report a higher pain number for similar incidents when compared to a different group, that doesn’t mean they are lying. It could be that there is a genetic marker that indicates experiencing pain at a higher level. It could mean that past experience with doctors have taught them they need to state their needs as dire to get the care they need. It could mean that more black people can’t afford healthcare and as such only go when it is more severe. It may be a cultural phenomena, like how in Britain “man flu” is considered a thing.
I don’t believe data says people are lying, I believe data can show a trend. I feel that it is good to be aware of data.
This isn’t an issue of data, it’s an issue of racist drivel being presented as medical science, people in this thread have already presented the actual data for your “questions” and surprise! Yes medical professionals are trained to expect black people to lie about pain because they’re literally taught black people don’t experience pain, THAT’S THE REAL WORLD DATA
See we’re dealing with the dire reality of racism in the medical field and you think it’s simply an issue of not having data, one: we already have the data, two: racists don’t give a fuck about data, that’s why the black category can only be read as “they’re lying” because the rest of the categories are filled with indefensible bigotry and cartoonish caricatures, that reveals the mindset of the editor and author of the section, as such they cannot be treated as any sort of reliable transmitter of inferred data, especially when the real data contradicts their racist assertions
I think you misunderstand me.
I believe that racism is a problem, especially in medicine. I think that there are many groups who are discriminated medical professionals.
I don’t think the information is presented in a good way. But I think it’s important to look at this information. Racists don’t care about what the data says, that doesn’t mean it isn’t important for sane people to see the data. It’s like the infamous crime statistic, where the conclusion racists draw is black people are not only more likely to commit crime but they are also bad and will be caught, as opposed to thinking for one brief second that the issue is one of unfair enforcement.
I think that suppression of knowledge isn’t a good course. Obviously the information was presented in a poor fashion, but there is a difference between it just being racism and being really bad at showing data. But presenting findings can’t be considered racist, taking findings out of context can be.
I swear in one ear out the other, real sus shit from our little lemm.ee visitor, there is no “findings” to be presented, there is no “context” to massage the racist drivel in that book, it’s all garbage, the actual data (that has already been posted in this thread, which you have ignored) contradicts everything in that trash section
It’s not about presentation, there is no “good” fashion for displaying racism, the information itself is bogus and cartoonishly bigoted, how this isn’t obvious to you speaks volumes about your ignorance concerning racial subjects, but hey you’re
so I guess I have to grade you on a curve
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