• happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    I’m surprised at Colorado’s: https://i.imgur.com/kntCw6i.jpeg

    The area getting carpet nuked is Pawnee National Grasslands and the surrounding cattle ranches. That area borders Wyoming (https://i.imgur.com/fKtHTTF.jpeg) and Nebraska (https://i.imgur.com/5MoU8AQ.jpeg). Wyoming I get, Cheyenne is a major nuclear missile base to the point that they have three fucking ICBMs outside the gate of Warren AFB. There’s fuck-all in that area of Colorado and Nebraska though as far as bases go. It has to be a bunch of dispersed missile silos on farms.

      • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        2 years ago

        I know a lot of contemporary silos in the region are like that, nondescript fenced-in sites with one or two Air Force security guards randomly stashed in the mountains. 1990 would have still been at Cold War operating levels so they’re probably all throughout the area.

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          2 years ago

          Yeah that’s my assumption as well. The saturation of that area was surprising. I looked at my state out of curiosity and it was what you’d expect, population centers and military bases, but nothing to that degree.

    • Commander_Data [she/her]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      Isn’t there a big data center or something there? I remember driving through that area in 2020 and seeing a crazy looking sprawling complex that wasn’t expressly a military installation, but had far too much security and menacing architecture to be civilian.

      • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        2 years ago

        I’ve only driven past Pawnee once and it was during a blizzard so I didn’t see anything. It’s the one part of Colorado I have no reason to ever visit.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      It seems to be exactly that. I don’t know what Santa Fe’s population was in 1990 but my hunch is was just over 50,000. When I checked the New Mexico map - sure enough Santa Fe is a target.

      Santa Fe was (and still is) a tourist town. As far as I know - it has zero military or strategic value. The only thing that existed (and exists) here in vast amounts is very bad western art.

      • Teapot [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        2 years ago

        Probably a bunch of military people working at Los Alamos who live in Santa Fe. Pretty sure Los Alamos will be cratered

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          2 years ago

          I only glanced at the NM map for a couple seconds. I don’t know if Los Alamos was a target. If targets are crudely based (on population, nukes, military bases, etc) - the answer is probably “no”. Los Alamos has a very small population.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]@hexbear.net
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      2 years ago

      towns over a certain size will get nuked

      I mean yeah, that’s the point of nuclear warfare. Kill everyone so your enemy can never justify saying “Well it’s not going to be that bad”.

    • RoabeArt [he/him]@hexbear.netOP
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      2 years ago

      Military bases, missile silos (which is why there are a shit ton of dots in states like Missouri and the Dakotas), airports, steel mills, chemical plants and it looks like even vehicle assembly plants.

      I’m in Ohio and I can tell that one of those dots is directly on top of the huge General Motors assembly facility in Lordstown (which recently closed). I guess anything that could be repurposed to build and support war machines was considered as a potential target.

  • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]@hexbear.net
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    2 years ago

    I quit drinking and smoking cigs recently. I, as a joke, kept a single cig and a bottle of tequila for nuclear war. Now I open my freezer and just feel :posadist-nuke: vibes. I’m located in a “once the nukes fly you can’t and won’t get out” city

  • My only hope for nuclear war is that I’m in the range where I go “Huh what’s that bright light?” immediately before becoming a shadow on the floor rather than the range where I die after a few weeks of agony

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      That is perhaps the biggest relief of bothering to learn about the reality of nuclear warfare, at first the stages of grief just spiraled nearly out of control for me. I really did not want to believe that such things were not only possible but also have been pretty close to happening at any given moment the 70 years where theyve been allowed to proliferate. Coming from “How would I and so many other people even attempt to survive this?” to “Why on Earth would I want to see the destruction of everything I know and love as planet Earth and survive?” was a real relief. If the nukes drop I’m finding a way to die in the initial blasts.

      • Exactly. Even if I could survive the first few weeks and initial high danger of blasts and radiation, why the fuck would I want to? I don’t want to live in the world that comes after, it sounds like a hell I can’t comprehend.

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    2 years ago

    Wish I could see the reasoning behind some of these targets. My state is looking kinda wacky and I’m seeing dots in places I can’t imagine there is anything worth bombing.

    Got some tourist towns, and someone really really hates the river.