• Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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    8 months ago

    And no the point of this meme is not to endorse one of these insane takes.

    It’s to address the hypocrisy of allowing one of them.

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      Man I float between lemmy and reddit to track some of these events, and I’ve never seen such terribly biased modding on reddit since this blew open.

      WorldNews and News over there is saturated with extremely petty authoritarians banning people for simply expressing a dissenting opinion in a clearly highly conservative pro-Israel sub.

      To Lemmy’s credit I haven’t seen that level of mod injection, yet…

      And not for the reason they think, but the top part of the meme is sort of right: IDF creates the next generation of terrorists by sowing the seeds of radicalization now. How odd that when one blows up countless families and leaves many orphans behind that the remaining individuals with rubble for homes have little in the way of options but radicalize. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

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        Reddit is filled to the brim with IDF LLM models jerking each other off. It actually made me migrate to Lemmy. Spez is must be extatic with the “engagement” numbers he’s seeing.

        The “good news” is that the small minority of real users on Reddit is rapidly decreasing. Soon it will just be bots talking to bots

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      Actually true, it’s so bs move made by the mods, categorising anyone who is supporting Palestinians as tankies or terrorists, when leaving out zionists

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        ~ 1/3 military kills is definitely not “indiscriminately killing”. These numbers change everything.

        It’s not a mass murder anymore. Oct7 was a justified targeted retaliation.

        -OP, 1 month ago

        Edit:

        Also most israeli civilians are IDF reservists so they are in fact uncounted soldiers. The IDF just called up 300.000 “innocent civilians” to commit genocide in Gaza? lmao.

        The best number is how little children were killed in compared to the total amount of people

        -Also OP, same thread

        Almost, forgot the most contradictory one of them all (emphasis mine):

        If they are IDF conscripts they’re not civilians. Don’t even dare to compare israeli colonists to Koreans.

        If people went into Hamas military service and become a “Hamas reservist” then you wouldn’t even doubt to call those people terrorists.

        There are actual israelis that rejected IDF service and even people that advocates for peace that were killed which is very sad. But the majority are military.

        Sauce

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          Yes only 36 children out of 1139 deaths does indicate that it was not indiscriminate murder. Do link the evidence presented that the IDF shelled the kibbutzes, festival and fleeing cards themselves too you conveniently left that out. And that we have no footage of Hamas shooting any children. And the fact that America has aroud 90% civilian casualties, three times high than oct7, even while including the IDF shelling civilians themselves.

          The other posts are still completely true. The only difference is that you do not understand where to draw the line.

          The line is drawn at not killing unarmed, non resisting people.

          If you disagree with my later comments of non-armed IDF reservists not being affiliated with the IDF then you can in no way justify israel bombing any target in Gaza which they suspect as a Hamas member if that person is not actively armed.

          For one second do this mental exersize:

          If a Hamas soldier went through a Hamas training camp and is a Hamas member on reserve duty but did not participate in the october 7 attacks, is the IDF justified in killing this person when he is not holding a weapon?

    • Tenthrow@lemmy.worldM
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      We respond faster to reports. If you find a comment or post you feel is in violation of the rules, report it. We will review. Many of us moderate more than one community so reports are important to bring problematic posting ot our attention. If you don’t feel that a report you have made is being addressed, by all means reach out so that we can discuss it.

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        This post seems kinda manipulative. OP’s comment history is littered with the very claim that is purportedly being censored by Lemmy mods. Check out my other comment in this thread for examples.

        I guess if the goal is to “encourage” mods to remove comments attempting to justify the murders of thousands of Palestinian children—acts that I obviously agree are unjustifiable—then it’s a means to an end, but this account just seems strange to me.

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      There’s less, but there are some insane Zionist posters that never seem to catch a ban, and their insane comments often stay up or only get removed after quite a delay

      Examples of clear Zionist posters that post actual insane takes are:

      (These are just examples from the top of my head but there’s a few more.)

      Granted it’s not nearly as insane here as on Reddit where the entire r/worldnews sub is filled with bots screaming for the genocide of every Palestinian child. But we have a few of them here.

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        Just went over to Reddit to see how it is and goddamn lmao. Even that new r/Isrealexposed subreddit gets astroturfed hard with known trolls being called in to defend genocidal actions taken by the IDF. Fucking wild.

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        Right, instead of posters saying all Palestinians should be genocided, Lemmy has posters saying all Israelis should be genocided instead. Much better.

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      I don’t know why people think Lemmy would be different. It’s the same people as on Reddit, and mods have just as much trouble managing it.

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        There was a time when redditors were the few newcomers. Some came to Lemmy because it was different, others joined simply to leave Reddit. So now we got communities and instances with discords for brigading each other.

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      Literally one of the biggest Hamas propagandists replied to you. He’ll make you belive that Hamas are saints protecting the Palestinians if you don’t actually fact check his constant lies and statement twisting.

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        Thanks for showing up to the party Doombot. Good thing you’re here to factually tell us all Palestinians are Hamas.

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          pushes up fake glasses “trust me, an internet stranger, I know for a fact all of the Palestinians are combatants and they all signed up willingly to join Hamas. The IDF would never commit a war crime and those that have been committed were by bad faith conscripts, but even then I just said all Palestinians are leaders of Hamas so it’s not a war crime. Source: my cognitive dissonance and whatever IDF propaganda tells me”

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          Thanks for once again putting words in my mouth. Good know you speak for me more than I do. /s

          Seriously though, for anyone else reading. This is all he does. He will take whatever statements you make and just twist them into his little lies. I dare anyone to go through all of my history on here and show me one time where I called all Palestinians Hamas. Like literally made that statement, not just this liar claiming I did.

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              I’m confused, your quote does in no way equate all Palestinians with Hamas. Did you plan to quote something else?

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                “Yes Hamas recruits children as long they are able to hold a gun” - Doombot_5

                What exactly do you believe these words mean? Along with him saying that Combatants are counted as civilians? I haven’t seen a single instance of a child fighting for Hamas.

                You are free to scroll through the guy’s comment history to find even more genocidal quotes. Try to replace the world “Palestinian” with israeli if you don’t understand how this works.

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                  What exactly do you believe these words mean?

                  That Hamas recruits children as for example confirmed by Amnesty International. And that Hamas makes no statement about the deaths they report whether they are Hamas fighters or not. Both statements are true whether you like it or not. And non of these statements is “genocidal”. Do you even know what that word means?

                  You are free to scroll through the guy’s comment history to find even more genocidal quotes.

                  How about you scroll through their comments and find actual proof of your accusations?

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    Let’s be real here, saying “IDF conscripts” is basically the same as saying “adult Israeli citizens” except for the religious wackos who are the biggest supporters of the war anyway