• EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.netM
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    I will never forgive Reddit for both creating and ruining a succinct framing device for the criticism of media analysis. Yes, sometimes curtains are just blue, but now all criticism of poorly thought out or overcooked media analysis (especially the dogshit prescribed analysis thrown at kids along with school assigned reading) has this long shadow of internet reaction that’s nearly impossible to escape.

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      It’s not just Reddit. It’s also tumblr and the generation of middle and high schoolers who used it. Also the fault of some English teachers for only teaching deliberate, explicit symbolism but not explaining the concept of zeitgeist and subconscious in relation to art.

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      #1 thing I think any newly minted socialist society will need will be media literacy classes for all. Instead of telling the students “the curtains are just blue” or “the curtains represent his deep inner sadness” the lesson will be “the curtains may or may not mean many things, depending on the context of the story, and here’s how you can learn to analyse it yourself instead of regurgitating my opinion back at me.”

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      There are so many people who think Brooklyn is some tiny enclave and not practically a large city of its own.

      If New York had its boroughs separated into their own cities, at 2.5 million people Brooklyn would become the third largest city in the US after Los Angeles and Chicago.

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    In any normal timeline, this would just be funny. But since the bad guys won the cold war, I have to slog through millions of smug I-told-you-sos from normies.

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    The bourgeoisie have no problems flaunting their crimes, or they’re stupid or careless enough to let it hang loose on accident. But rarely do they have these elaborate “clues” and “reminders” because they’re too busy ruining the world.

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    This isn’t a completely baseless idea as there’s a common thread in psychopathy/sociopathy, particularly when associacited with narcisistic personality disorder, of leaving clues that they believe are too cleverly coded for anyone less smart than them to decipher (which is everyone).
    This ain’t that though. They didn’t even manage to correctly identify the child - it’s a fully grown “person” with a bag of money for a head.

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        You’re right, ASPD is the real thing, but most people are familiar with it by those names.

        Edit: Just to clarify for casual browsers, psychopathy and sociopathy are not and have never been official diagnoses, though some psychologists have argued for definitions of them. Anti-Social Personality Disorder is the DSM name for all the ideas of psychopathy and sociopathy.

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    The National Treasure teir “cabal clues hidden in plain site for mega smart conspiracy dweebs to unearth” narrative is my current favorite going into 2024.

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    I mean the Free Masons literally do this and they freely talk about doing it. If someone thinks they are the bad guys (cause of sex magick or because they founded the UN or whatever), it’s kind of a given that the bad guys do this.

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      I bet the Freemasons encourage and propagate all the conspiracy theories about them to make themselves look much more mysterious and powerful than they really are. They may have had some influence in previous centuries but it’s just old men LARPing at this point.

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      Plus they have Lucky Larry literally admitting on video that “we told them to pull it” (about Building 7)

      The controller class either enjoy letting people know, or for some reason are required to

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          The weirdest thing about this “Building 7” conspiracy stuff, is that if it really were a fake, controlled demolition, you’d think they wouldn’t also blow up random buildings nearby. That they’d ensure that it looked exactly like people think big explosions look like, based on hollywood movies.

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              I believe the building wasn’t totally destroyed, but was rendered unusable, so they had to “pull it down”

              I could be wrong about that. Honestly, I’d be more inclined to think all the little “hints” and “clues” they say are just them fucking with people. After all, if you’re focused on some crazy conspiracy theory about how it was all a master plan to defy the laws of physics to praise moloch or whatever, you’re not focused on the actual conspiracy, which is that a lot of rich and powerful in the US were hanging out at the same parties as the Saudis who orchestrated this, and there were a lot of suspicious transfers of stocks right before it.

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                you’re not focused on the actual conspiracy, which is that a lot of rich and powerful in the US were hanging out at the same parties as the Saudis who orchestrated this, and there were a lot of suspicious transfers of stocks right before it.

                uhhhh yeah that is the conspiracy. Larry Silverstein was the owner of the property, he his wife and his kids all coincidentally didn’t show up for work on 9/11, plus the “pull it” video (among like a million other things)

                It’s just that in addition to the very “normal” motivations for conspiracy (making money and political power) there are too many unexplainable things abound (not just 9/11 but other stuff) that it’s kind of impossible for everything to be just a “normal” game of power struggle

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              I mean some kind of group of conspirators doing some kind of “controlled demolition” not hijackers running planes into buildings and the rubble causing other buildings to collapse. I’m not saying “nothing suspicious happened here, move along” I’m saying that the mainstream focus of the conspiracy is trying to prove that it was some kind of crazy “inside job” that wouldn’t be necessary (most buildings collapse when hit by a plane, you don’t also need some kind of secret special invisible explosive as well) A lot of the conspiracy mongering is just distraction designed to well, distract people from the actual goings on and how the US used the event.

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                  Ah damn, you’re right. It was actually evil wizard George Bush casting a 9th level fireball spell and Dick Cheney a 4th level major image spell to disguise it. My bad.

                  I just don’t know why you’re trying so hard on this particular point? This is distraction. The real issue is how the American rich and powerful benefited from this, we don’t need to invoke magical hidden explosives that break the laws of physics and quote mine some rich fuck who said something dumb, that’s irrelevant and just makes you look like a tin foil hat conspiracy theorist. There is a difference between a conspiracy and a conspiracy theory, and the bourgeoisie want to make sure that those lines are as blurred as possible to obfuscate things as much as possible. Clinging on to conspiracy theories about cruise missiles and hologram planes doesn’t make your case stronger, it makes it weaker and less based in reality, and therefore, less accurate. A materialist analysis is what is needed, not jumping to exciting conclusions where the elite sacrificed the buildings to moloch or whatever. We don’t need to invoke things like that. A plane crashed into some buildings and the US elite used the tragedy to enrich themselves and expand the surveillance state. That’s the stuff we should be focusing on. Because that’s the only part that actually matters.