• fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    It’s entirely voluntarily (hence bonus), and has huge benefits for your self. I fail to see what the problem is.

    My company does the same thing, and so do many others.

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      11 months ago

      Your company is abusing it’s employees. Imagine if it was something other than exercise how abusive it would be.

      With how a lot of jobs have a lot of their pay based on nearly mandatory bonuses, this is basing pay on controlling you outside of work.

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        11 months ago

        Your company is abusing it’s employees. Imagine if it was something other than exercise how abusive it would be.

        Except it’s not, because it’s exclusively about health. It’s a discount health insurance companies offer to companies, and the company uses that money to encourage employees to be healthier.

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          11 months ago

          I didnt see what was the appeal for companies until I realized they were US based companies and had to provide health insurance for their employees

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        11 months ago

        Not all of these programs explicitly require running with no alternatives for people who can’t run.

        Most that I’ve seen are usually just based on “exercise minutes” depending on how your device tracks those. The Apple watch is really lenient and I get 50% of my daily goal just walking to work.

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            11 months ago

            I’m sure they offer alternatives. Not everything is so black and white.

            Our companies in particular is just 30 exercise minutes so you can do whatever you want to get your heart rate up.

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              11 months ago

              I hope ‘going to therapy to treat your depression because you can’t force yourself to go out and exercise’ is offered as an alternative too.

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              11 months ago

              Sex. I want my company to pay me to sex. I feel like I could totally get behind that. Sexually.

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            11 months ago

            If the company is operating in good faith, they will be making “reasonable accommodations” for disabled workers.

            The top tier of this program requires about 30 minutes of running per day. I’m sure we can find a similarly intensive workout to meet the needs and capabilities of disabled workers, numbnuts.

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              11 months ago

              If the company is operating in good faith,

              If they’re going on with this idea, they’re definitely not operating in good faith.

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                11 months ago

                Nothing in the article even suggests they are operating in bad faith.

                The company is basically asking them to voluntarily extend their work day by 15 to 30 minutes, but instead of offering time-and-a-half they would be entitled to as “overtime”, they will double, or more than double their wages.

                That roughly 30 minute period of activity is worth about 16 times their hourly pay.

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                  11 months ago

                  The year end bonus was canceled in order to enforce this “healthy” change during the coming months. The workers lost something they were supposed to get because some asshole wanted them to be “healthier”. There’s a considerable chance that the company will distribute less money to the workers that way.

                  It’s not about keeping workers healthy, it’s about saving money, that’s bad faith.

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      If they want to be a part of employees health and well-being they can pay health insurance or start the day with a hit sessions or yoga or tai chi.

      They absolutely shouldn’t be encouraging, through their bonus scheme, people to do work associated activities in their spare time.

      I understand your view I just don’t like that this is how they’ve chosen to encourage such a thing.

      My work has a marathon every year, during work hours on a voluntary basis and logs training miles for competition. Never affects earnings or personal time.

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      As reported by Guangzhou Daily, Lin Zhiyong, the chairman of a company that makes paper for various devices, told his workers that their year-end bonuses had been canceled. Instead, the money will be distributed across each coming month, and how much employees receive will depend on how far they run.

      He literally canceled their bonuses and said “lol go run for it dipshit”

      Imagine getting your bonus cancelled and told to go do more work to get it back.

      Fuck this guy and fuck Chinese labour standards.

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      Because it is a transparent attempt to pay less bonuses and I am betting exploits some condition in the insurance and/or tax code to get a better deal for the corporation.

      How about companies just pay the end of the year bonus and not make a big deal about it?

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        Or it’s because insurance companies offer discounts for companies that offer these programs. The employer uses some (or all) of that money to encourage employees to be healthier which A. makes them healthier. B. saves the insurance company/insurance money. C. helps boost productivity. and D. makes everyone overall happier.

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      11 months ago

      Meanwhile, assholes at the top get bonuses if the company is profitable. Seeing a bit of a discrepancy here