Look I get it, I also wanted someone different than Biden in 2020. But I truly don’t think it’s sane political strategy to run a different democratic candidate when you already have a sitting democratic president who’s able to run for another term. The loss of the incumbent advantage is way higher than any benefit a new candidate would bring (from a voter turnout perspective, not a policy one). People would be rightly furious if the Democrats ran a new guy only to lose to trump based on name recognition alone.
That’s true of both of them, thereby making your point moot.
If you really want to change this, run in your local elections, and state elections. You can change far more at the local level than the federal, by design.
The wish for one party to select somebody under 80 years old is not moot just because the other party is likely going to select an 80+ year old. Especially if there is a sizable voter block who are more easily swayed to vote for someone under 50.
How does local voting make it more likely to get younger presidents? I’m not sure I understand that point.
Of the two major parties, the GOP is far closer to what you’re describing. If it wasn’t for fear mongering, the GOP wouldn’t have anything at all to go off of. Bad things will happen like, immigrants flooding the borders, socialism raising your taxes, your kids being taught to be gay, etc. “Vote for us or bad things will happen” might as well be the official slogan of the GOP. Either that or “White Christians good, everyone else, bad”. Take your pick.
“Democrats are running on a disgusting fear-mongering campaign! I know so because somebody sometime said something on twitter! …although I wasn’t paying that much attention, too distracted doomscrolling while fondling my confirmation purity bias.”
The longer that centrists scream that anyone who doesn’t like Biden’s support for genocide must be a Trumpist/Russian/bot/child/etc, the more I think that they looked at the genocide and were like “fucking finally!”
And that this will keep being the case until Democrats move so far to the right that we have two functionally identical parties or the lesser evil finally loses and we have only one.
That’s not the platform they are running on at all though. That’s something I only hear progressives online say as they attack centrists to the delight of right wingers.
You never heard “we need to stop trump” or “help us stop trump” from democrats? Being not-trump has been the party platform ever since he got elected, to the point where they adoringly talk about any republican that has argued against him, even scumbags like john bolton.
I think their point is that Democrats aren’t progressives. They’re Neo-Liberals, aka, conservatives.
I personally have to hold my nose and vote for Democrats when the party puts forth the most milquetoast conservatives that they can possibly find. Hell they had to run an 80 year old candidate just to find someone that agrees with the DNC corporate policies.
This isn’t to say both parties are the same. They aren’t. The Republicans are absolutely fascists that want to destroy democracy because it doesn’t work for them at all. The Democrats are only willing to work with democracy because it’s working for them thus far.
Don’t tell that to all those weekend armchair political quarterbacks, though, you’ll be bombarded by a barrage of “mUh PuRiTy! bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe!” confirmation-biased autistic screeching.
Ok, great, thanks for pointing out the obvious. Unfortunately, complaining about it doesn’t make it any less true. This is a triage situation; we have to save our democracy first, and only then can we worry about fixing it.
DeSantis is done. We (the progressives) don’t have that option any more (as opposed to full on dictator Trump as our alternative option to Biden) Disney has effectively buried DeSantis.
Don’t get me wrong. DeSantis would have been far more effective as a dictator that Trump ever will be. DeSantis was supposed to be more subtle and therefore more effective than Trump for the fascists. He picked a fight with Disney, and has removed that aspect of his political currency. I’m particularly glad that DeSantis did this, as I still feel that he would be much more destructive to the US democracy than Trump has ever imagined in his most feverish of delusional fantasies.
I am not saying I am not voting for Biden, but running on the platform of “vote for us or bad things will happen” is a shitty platform.
Look I get it, I also wanted someone different than Biden in 2020. But I truly don’t think it’s sane political strategy to run a different democratic candidate when you already have a sitting democratic president who’s able to run for another term. The loss of the incumbent advantage is way higher than any benefit a new candidate would bring (from a voter turnout perspective, not a policy one). People would be rightly furious if the Democrats ran a new guy only to lose to trump based on name recognition alone.
I think it’s the sane option when said candidate is 80 years old.
Most people are in a care home or dead at that age.
That’s true of both of them, thereby making your point moot.
If you really want to change this, run in your local elections, and state elections. You can change far more at the local level than the federal, by design.
The wish for one party to select somebody under 80 years old is not moot just because the other party is likely going to select an 80+ year old. Especially if there is a sizable voter block who are more easily swayed to vote for someone under 50.
How does local voting make it more likely to get younger presidents? I’m not sure I understand that point.
Bloomberg or Delaney?
Of the two major parties, the GOP is far closer to what you’re describing. If it wasn’t for fear mongering, the GOP wouldn’t have anything at all to go off of. Bad things will happen like, immigrants flooding the borders, socialism raising your taxes, your kids being taught to be gay, etc. “Vote for us or bad things will happen” might as well be the official slogan of the GOP. Either that or “White Christians good, everyone else, bad”. Take your pick.
“Democrats are running on a disgusting fear-mongering campaign! I know so because somebody sometime said something on twitter! …although I wasn’t paying that much attention, too distracted doomscrolling while fondling my confirmation purity bias.”
No, everyone loves being scared and shamed into voting for a candidate that supports a genocide.
The longer that centrists scream that anyone who doesn’t like Biden’s support for genocide must be a Trumpist/Russian/bot/child/etc, the more I think that they looked at the genocide and were like “fucking finally!”
A shitty platform is born out of a shitty system rotten to the core.
Yeah exactly. It’s so shitty we will most likely have 2 terrible terrible choices.
And that this will keep being the case until Democrats move so far to the right that we have two functionally identical parties or the lesser evil finally loses and we have only one.
That’s not the platform they are running on at all though. That’s something I only hear progressives online say as they attack centrists to the delight of right wingers.
You never heard “we need to stop trump” or “help us stop trump” from democrats? Being not-trump has been the party platform ever since he got elected, to the point where they adoringly talk about any republican that has argued against him, even scumbags like john bolton.
I think their point is that Democrats aren’t progressives. They’re Neo-Liberals, aka, conservatives.
I personally have to hold my nose and vote for Democrats when the party puts forth the most milquetoast conservatives that they can possibly find. Hell they had to run an 80 year old candidate just to find someone that agrees with the DNC corporate policies.
This isn’t to say both parties are the same. They aren’t. The Republicans are absolutely fascists that want to destroy democracy because it doesn’t work for them at all. The Democrats are only willing to work with democracy because it’s working for them thus far.
Don’t tell that to all those weekend armchair political quarterbacks, though, you’ll be bombarded by a barrage of “mUh PuRiTy! bOtH pArTiEs ArE tHe SaMe LoL aMiRiTe!” confirmation-biased autistic screeching.
If you think that’s the platform their running on you haven’t been paying attention.
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Ok, great, thanks for pointing out the obvious. Unfortunately, complaining about it doesn’t make it any less true. This is a triage situation; we have to save our democracy first, and only then can we worry about fixing it.
It’s simple, vote 3rd party
Not without ranked choice voting in place first.
In primaries, yes. In the presidential election, no. That’s how we get DeSantis.
DeSantis is done. We (the progressives) don’t have that option any more (as opposed to full on dictator Trump as our alternative option to Biden) Disney has effectively buried DeSantis.
Don’t get me wrong. DeSantis would have been far more effective as a dictator that Trump ever will be. DeSantis was supposed to be more subtle and therefore more effective than Trump for the fascists. He picked a fight with Disney, and has removed that aspect of his political currency. I’m particularly glad that DeSantis did this, as I still feel that he would be much more destructive to the US democracy than Trump has ever imagined in his most feverish of delusional fantasies.
Found the GOP shill
“If you aren’t one of us, you’re one of them!”