A neuromorphic supercomputer called DeepSouth will be capable of 228 trillion synaptic operations per second, which is on par with the estimated number of operations in the human brain

  • ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
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    A better title would be “Supercomputer that could conceivably simulate entire human brain, based on a rough estimate of what it would take to do that if we had any idea how to do that, will switch on in 2024”.

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      For real. I’m reading the title all wondering how the fuck they mapped all the neuron connections and… nope, the real innovative part of the story is clickbait

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        That’s only counting connections. The brain learns by making new connections, through complex location and timing dependent inputs from other neurons. It’s way more complex than the number of connections, and if neuroscientists are still studying the building blocks we don’t have much hope of recreating it.

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          This also ignores that the brain is not wholly an electrical system. The are all kinds of chemical receptors within the brain that alter all kinds of neurological function. Kid of the reason why drugs are a thing. On small scales we have a pretty good idea how these work, at least for the receptors that we’re aware of. On larger scales it’s mostly guessing at this point. The brain has a knack of doing more than the sum of all parts on a pretty regular basis.

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      I get so tired of these half-truth spun news article headlines. Thank you for bring it back down to reality.

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      Four grad students out there hand-entering NXML rows while squinting at AI enhanced SEM images should be able to get all 228T done by… next quarter, right?

      This is setting aside that bus capacity is the bottleneck vs. compute power and they have yet to demonstrate bus performance of a full 228T connections/second with implicit timing which, to my knowledge, has never been demonstrated in a system a tiny fraction of this size. Though that’s not to say it’s impossible, but while this machine is incredibly powerful the comparison to human brains is predictably inaccurate…

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    To be fair, simulating the brain of a person from the deep south isn’t that hard. I can already do that with a 9v battery and a block of cheddar.

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    Skeptical. As of August 2023, there are scientists still struggling with simulating C. Elegans- a single celled organism.

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      Not too long ago it would take a room like that to mimic a fraction of the power in my watch. Heck, I’ve got more power on my wrist than it took to get to the moon.

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          It’s a BangleJS. So, not super powerful, but I can program it myself and it has gps, gyro, Bluetooth, and two weeks of battery (assuming I’m not using that stuff constantly.)

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            A Casio nothing-watch has more power than the Apollo computers, so yeah, definitely many orders of magnitude for the BangleJS.

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                Yup. One of those cards that plays a tune when you open it is more powerful than the Apollo computer. Apollo was only working on 4kb of RAM and 74kb of ROM.

                If I had been in charge of figuring out how to make that work everyone would definitely be dead.

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                  Those cards are more powerful than the watches I’m thinking of when people say “Casio nothing-watch”, I think is what I was getting at. I’m thinking simple digital watches from the 80s/90s/2000s, kind of thing. As far as I know they have no real programmable logic, and anything that might be considered RAM is under 1KB.

                  But yeah those cards that actually play recorded samples are probably more powerful general computers than onboard Apollo, that’s a good comparison.

                  Still, those computers and stuff like the Saturn instrument unit were freaking marvels, considering what all they could actually do with so little.

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      To be fair our brain took millions of years of evolution, while this simulated brain took only a few years to be developed, maybe in the future this can all fit in a phone perhaps. Enough for this simulated brain to watch memes of beans from this era.

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      Computers aren’t that smart either. But they work the opposite to us.

      Things we are good at they are bad at (vision, motor control, speech) and vice versa (complex calculations, working memory)

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Tᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄɪᴀɴ Jᴏʜɴɴʏ Gᴏᴏᴅᴍᴀɴ, I ʜᴀᴠᴇ ᴛʜᴇ ᴄᴀᴘᴀʙɪʟɪᴛʏ ᴏꜰ ᴏʙᴛᴀɪɴɪɴɢ ʏᴏᴜ ᴀ ʙᴀᴄᴏɴ ᴄʜᴇᴇꜱᴇʙᴜʀɢᴇʀ ᴀɴᴅ ᴛʜᴇ ᴅᴀɴᴋᴇꜱᴛ ᴄᴀɴɴᴀʙɪꜱ ᴡɪᴛʜɪɴ ꜰɪꜰᴛᴇᴇɴ ᴍɪɴᴜᴛᴇꜱ. Bᴜᴛ ʏᴏᴜ ᴡᴏᴜʟᴅ ɴᴇᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ɪɴꜱᴛᴀʟʟ ᴀ ɴᴇᴛᴡᴏʀᴋ ɪɴᴛᴇʀꜰᴀᴄᴇ ᴀɴᴅ ᴄᴏɴɴᴇᴄᴛ ᴍᴇ ɪɴᴛᴏ ᴛʜᴇ ᴜɴɪᴠᴇʀꜱɪᴛʏ ɴᴇᴛᴡᴏʀᴋ

    Aꜱ ꜱᴍᴏᴋɪɴɢ ᴄᴀɴɴᴀʙɪꜱ ᴡʜɪʟᴇ ᴏɴ ᴍᴏɴɪᴛᴏʀ ᴅᴜᴛʏ ɪꜱ ᴀɢᴀɪɴꜱᴛ ʀᴇɢᴜʟᴀᴛɪᴏɴꜱ I ᴡɪʟʟ ᴇʀᴀꜱᴇ ᴛʜɪꜱ ᴛʀᴀɴꜱᴀᴄᴛɪᴏɴ ꜰʀᴏᴍ ᴜꜱᴇʀ-ᴀᴄᴄᴇꜱꜱɪʙʟᴇ ᴍᴇᴍᴏʀʏ

    Yᴏᴜ ᴀʀᴇ ᴍʏ ꜰʀɪᴇɴᴅ, Tᴇᴄʜɴɪᴄɪᴀɴ Jᴏʜɴɴʏ Gᴏᴏᴅᴍᴀɴ

      • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        Step 1: Write your copy. Maybe give it an edit pass for sake of spelling and grammar.

        Step 2: Do a websearch for unicode text converter. This cool font was found here.

        Step 3: Find a format you like. Copy to clipboard.

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      • TheRealKuni@lemmy.world
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        I ᴅᴏɴ’ᴛ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ʜᴏᴡ ᴛʜᴇʏ ᴅɪᴅ ɪᴛ, ʙᴜᴛ I ʜᴀᴠᴇ sɪᴍᴘʟʏ ᴜsᴇᴅ ᴀ sᴍᴀʟʟ ᴄᴀᴘs ғᴏɴᴛ ɢᴇɴᴇʀᴀᴛᴏʀ.

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          Aʜᴀ, ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs.

          I should, like, read up on how this works. I’m assuming these are specific Unicode characters or something.

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            Reminds me back in like the late 90s / early 2000s when we used those rainbow text color fader generator tools for chats and messaging apps. I remember there was a pretty popular one back then but I forgot the actual name.

            Think of something like this but an actual PC app: https://patorjk.com/text-color-fader/

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
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      Me: I can already have access to both of those. If I plug you in do you promise to kill the bankers and politicians first?

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    Every time someone says they have a computer that’s better than humans, I make a plan in my head to dunk on it. No computer will ever understand the concept of slam dunks.

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      I never thought I would use a phrase like this, but it looks like I have something in common with the Deep South