Most of the songs I like from her are also based on nostalgia. I don’t even like her as a person lol, but it’s weird seeing people get up in arms about the fans being weird as if this is a new phenomenon. I can definitely imagine all the grumpy people getting mad because everyone is screaming over Paul McCartney in the 60s lol. Like chill. These are just kids trying to savior the last remnants of free time and youth before it falls to shit
I feel like this is a new phenomenon though? I grew up with Taylor Swift, like I was in 8th grade when the Kanye VMAs things happened, and I definitely remember her being a huge artist and a lot of people being into her, but on this level? Like Beyhive, Barbz level, defend her to the death stans? That I don’t remember.
edit: now that I’ve been sent back into early 2010s nostalgia, yeah I feel like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Beyonce were all bigger than her. Especially among (what would become) the queer community, which is interesting now that Taylor seems to have a good deal of currency among the queer community. Tbh most of the people I remember talking about her back then were straight dudes, but that could also be a function of hanging around mostly straight dudes. But the girls and (future) gays seemed more drawn to Lady Gaga and Nicki.
Boy bands and even single acts have gotten crazed fanbases since the 20th century. And K-Pop bands/stars have that in the 21st century.
Taylor Swift definitely wasn’t an international, influential celebrity back in the day, so yes it’s new in that sense. But I was referring more to this type of celebrity and fandom in general, which isn’t new.
I met one of those anti-Mccartney guys. He was older, and a beetles song came on, he started saying “let’s have a Beatles reunion: 3 more bullets” or something like that (I don’t actually know how many were in the band, just whatever the number was after Lennon).
Most of the songs I like from her are also based on nostalgia. I don’t even like her as a person lol, but it’s weird seeing people get up in arms about the fans being weird as if this is a new phenomenon. I can definitely imagine all the grumpy people getting mad because everyone is screaming over Paul McCartney in the 60s lol. Like chill. These are just kids trying to savior the last remnants of free time and youth before it falls to shit
I feel like this is a new phenomenon though? I grew up with Taylor Swift, like I was in 8th grade when the Kanye VMAs things happened, and I definitely remember her being a huge artist and a lot of people being into her, but on this level? Like Beyhive, Barbz level, defend her to the death stans? That I don’t remember.
edit: now that I’ve been sent back into early 2010s nostalgia, yeah I feel like Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, Nicki Minaj, Beyonce were all bigger than her. Especially among (what would become) the queer community, which is interesting now that Taylor seems to have a good deal of currency among the queer community. Tbh most of the people I remember talking about her back then were straight dudes, but that could also be a function of hanging around mostly straight dudes. But the girls and (future) gays seemed more drawn to Lady Gaga and Nicki.
Boy bands and even single acts have gotten crazed fanbases since the 20th century. And K-Pop bands/stars have that in the 21st century.
Taylor Swift definitely wasn’t an international, influential celebrity back in the day, so yes it’s new in that sense. But I was referring more to this type of celebrity and fandom in general, which isn’t new.
Fan girls are one thing, sure. I’m talking about grown ass adults here in a trumpian cult and I feel like it has a deeper sociological implication
I met one of those anti-Mccartney guys. He was older, and a beetles song came on, he started saying “let’s have a Beatles reunion: 3 more bullets” or something like that (I don’t actually know how many were in the band, just whatever the number was after Lennon).