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Every industry should be unionized. Enough of the honor system for the dishonorables
Absolutely. As the newest verse to Solidarity Forever goes:
They say our day is over; They say our time is through. They say you need no union if your collar isn’t blue. Well that is just another lie the boss is telling you, For the Union makes us strong!
What force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one?
For the Union makes us strong…
The selfishness is what kills us cuz the more selfish will take it all and we have nothing left to fight over except life(style) itself. We all lose when that happens
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You’ve listened to the Pete Seeger song though right? Solidarity Forever is based on The Battle Hymn of the Republic. They both use an AAAB rhyming scheme and I think are in iambic octameter but I’m not a professional. Pete Seeger didn’t write it, but I love his rendition. He’s got alot of great labor songs.
It was written much earlier for the IWW’s Little Red Songbook by Ralph Chaplin
Solidarity forever!
There is literally no downside to this.
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I sure hope they aren’t too late to the party. With glut of overpriced trucks sitting on the domestic lots in the past few weeks as it seems they have caught up with demand and/or people are having a harder time getting financing from banks for $100,000+ trucks and EV product is not moving where they will put their production labour into next? This is even starting to happen with Tacos at Toyota.
EVs are not moving on purpose.
https://jalopnik.com/car-dealers-are-stopping-customers-from-buying-evs-1851017999
I like how that article assumes that they’re simply ignorant about EVs, rather than being malicious.
But then I think of how much less maintenance EVs need, and how much of many dealers’ business is from service, and I suspect that the general anti-EV tone at dealerships is being pushed down from the top.
I can see the malicious angle. They would pressure me a bunch to convince me to service my work vehicles at the dealer.
I only did early on as the salesman would give my ex-wife his car for the day when she would bring it in when needed. They were fantastic senior sales guys. Real gentlemen. I think they were at war with the service department though.
Usually their service department couldn’t handle more than a oil change. One time my ex asked them to change out a hard to reach headlight bulb when I was out of town on a business trip.
The service department said it would cost $700 to replace the whole headlight assembly on our new car bought at their dealership as it had aftermarket remaned headlights. They said the car must of been in a accident and we were sold a repo.
When I got home from my trip it took me 2 minutes to change the bulb myself and I tore a strip off the Service Manager for not only for their gall to claim a brand new car with 5 kms they sold me was not new and their Bullshit scam preying on women.
They didn’t seem to care. I never bought another car from them again. I had bought 3 in a row from them at that stage for work. God damn crooks and I feel bad for those that don’t know any better. My ex-wife ended up driving around with 1 headlight in winter for a few days as a dealership was trying to scam her. They *must get some people on this BS to even be so bold.
Is it good to have 1 union?
(Unions in general are definitely good and obviously it makes more impact with more workers at once. I just had the thought of ’monopolies == bad’ and wondered how/if that applies to unions)
Unions are a form of government. Their leadership is voted in by its members. It’d be weird to say governments are monopolies. Yes there’s only one government, but the representatives are democratically elected. Individuals still have a voice.
A great way I’ve seen this summarized is that a union is not made of people you have to agree with or share beliefs or even ideology with, they’re people who you have a shared economic interest as part of a single labor body.
That’s the point of a union.
I think the more pro-capitalist view of unions would say that “one big union” is definitely a bad idea. The socialist or anarcho-syndicalist would likely see the one big union as a way to collectively fight the bosses, specifically in the context of class struggle. The communist or Marxist-Leninist would maybe say the union is a barrier to revolution by sustaining the class structure.
The biggest “one big union” org was/is the IWW or “wobblies” as they were known and it was their primary mission to unionize all workers under the IWW banner.
You do have a good point there and I agree with you
Workers should have the choice of what union they want to join and not he forced into the choice of join this one union in the automotive industry or not being in a union
Nah, union involvement in certain if not all sectors should absolutely not be discretionary, particularly in safety-sensitive industries although this really shouldn’t be limited to individual industries.
Otherwise you get idiots bitching its “safe enuff for muh” and get others or themselves hurt. Nope, sorry, they can be fishermen or forage in the woods if they want thuh freedom
There needs to be one unified union or else their bargaining power is greatly reduced. The cooperations will only hire from the union that benefits them most. Remember a union is not a private corporation. A union is a representative negotiating body. Every member of a union votes on and has a say in how the union acts.
The employer would just hire scabs in that arrangement like the main idea of a union is to have that single collective power.