A majority of younger veterans said they feel uncomfortable when they are told “thank you for your service,” a new poll found.
Ahead of Veterans Day on Saturday, a survey found disparities between young military members and their older counterparts in how they prefer to be recognized for their service.
Among younger military members and veterans — age 18 to 29 — 70 percent said they feel uncomfortable or awkward when they are thanked for their service. Only 24 percent of older members, 65 years and up, say the same, the Endeavor Analytics and YouGov poll found.
“This data shows that military service members and our veterans want Americans to go beyond small talk to connect with them on a deeper level, including learning more about their service, honoring each veteran’s service in ways in which they feel comfortable talking about it,” Robert F. Whittle Jr., retired Army major general and United Services Automobile Association (USAA) chief of staff, said in a statement.
It’s a weird thing to do. The lionization of the military is unhealthy for a democracy.
Thank a teacher, doctor, scientist or firefighter instead.
Don’t forget postal workers!
Also sanitization workers. We shouldn’t underestimate the importance of keepings things clean, have the sewage running, or taking our trash.
They truly are the thin brown line.
streets and sans is my heroes
Thank you for not going postal!
Grocery stockers. Janitors. Maintenance personnel. HVAC servicefolks.
Convenience store workers are the true heroes under fire.
I’m a volunteer firefighter. When i first met my neighbour(an american who was previously in their army no less) he said “thank you for your service” upon learning this. I can confirm that I also felt awkward as fuck hearing that phrase.
34 here, I absolutely hate being told thank you for my service and generally don’t reveal I was in the military if I can avoid it. I have no interest in being associated with the crowd of morons happy to send other people’s kids to war and then refuses to take care of them when they come back.
Every time I see someone with one of those fucking hats on (you know the ones) it makes me cringe so hard. Like those dudes who get there basic training company tattooed on their arm, or even worse, a combat patch tattoo hahaha. You now how many fucking boots got first cav tattoos after deployment? Lol. POGs everyone of them.
Can you tell me which hats. Sorry not sure which hat you mean…
The hats that say “Vietnam vet” or “first cav” or have an OIF ribbon on it or whatever
Why would Vietnam vet hat make you cringe? Those guys got spat on when they came home. If they want to wear a hat now why not?
After you left service maybe you put your time behind you, and that’s fine. But why would a Vietnam vet hat make you cringe?
There is no hate in my cringe but the cringe is real. There is an entire “boot” culture you aren’t aware of. Trust me on this one.
Eh, they can have a purpose. If you don’t want anyone to talk to you then you wear the dirty salt stained one. Or if you’re tired of people assuming your service dog is fake then put on a nice clean one. Instantly 100% less questions about “why do you have a dog?”
Shhhh. He is legend
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This sounds like the most concise description of the experience
“I was trained to be a killer for 8 weeks, and was nothing but for 21 years. I was given 2 weeks to become a civilian again.”
-MSgt Brad “Iceman” Colbert
(Apologies if not fully accurate, I’d have to go find the interview again)
It’s always been weird, it’s a job, do you tell the Starbucks employee that serves our country and helps keep the American economy going “thank you for your service”? It would make sense if we didn’t have a volunteer military but we do so it’s the same as thanking anyone for the job they do if they see you in your work uniform
I only say it to bus drivers because they are the thin khaki line that stands between peace and total societal collapse
As a bus driver myself I couldn’t agree more, and thank you.
Even when it’s more than a job think about what you’re actually encapsulating in such a mundane phrase. People lost friends, limbs, even their sanity, and so much of society thinks hearing “Thank You” is all vets need.
Then the VA is falling apart, claims are a mental health problem themselves, and getting care in some of the hospitals is a battle itself. But it’s all okay because someone said thank you.
At a certain age group it also comes off a bit insulting in that they didn’t sign up during wartime. But they were sent to a war because of a massive amount of lies.
I do thank my local coffee shop for keeping me sane and alive during COVID lockdown when I was working night stock.
Do you already forget all of the “thank you for your service” things for first responders during COVID?
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I’ve been in veteran circles, including qualifying for USAA benefits due to the service of family. I think he’s pretty accurate. Combat vets want a compassionate person to listen to their traumatic experiences, because most people use it as a thoughtless phrase to say, like saying thanks for someone opening a door. Most people saying it don’t want to know about the horrors they’ve seen. I’ve seen it in all of my family members and several friends that served in combat, they just want to be heard. The VA does what it can, but they need more funding to provide good therapists to vets.
The other vets that don’t like it usually didn’t serve in a combat role and don’t feel like they deserve it.
I suppose I’d be interested in finding out what they did in the military but if they just want to buy some beer then I’m not gonna bother them.
Of course if they didn’t wander around wearing military fatigues it wouldn’t come up.
As a veteran, I can’t help but imagine that a lot of the people I see wearing military paraphernalia were never in the military. I’ll only believe that you were/are in the military if you’re in full uniform with everything in the right place/position as only someone that is/was in the military would know how to do.
Fun fact. If you’re not in a rural area where that’s the fashion, and they’re obviously not actually wearing it as a uniform, (complete set, patches on, etc) they’re likely homeless. Or at least poor enough to need clothing hand outs.
Seriously, talk about jumping to conclusions. Maybe younger vets know that the more recent wars have been a farce and aren’t excessively proud of doing it, not like they get a choice in the matter.
Or we could treat them like people and not revere a shitty job they had in their early 20s. Idk that’s what my veteran friends seem to prefer
And the fact most of our modern wars have been various versions of invasion.
I think that’s a big difference. These weren’t lads off fighting fascism in France and liberating concentration camps in Poland. Many of them were the tip of the spear of an illegal, immoral invasion that, retrospectively, has become toxic to have ever supported (unless you’re a Republican, then nobody cares).
Lucky for some current military folks in countries that still have functioning liberal democracies, you guys may have a chance to return the favor (that is, killing fascist scum) in the US within the next decade or so.
I’m not in the military but I’ve always felt this way the case. It’s so empty and meaningless.
It seems like it’s more for the people saying it. "I did something nice today to make me feel good about myself. I thanked a person for doing something they signed up for under their own free will. "
I was at a party given by my neighbor last year and I met his brother-in-law, an Army vet. I chatted with him for a while but I gradually got the impression he had taken an instant dislike to me so I moved on. The next day I was talking to my neighbor and asked him what was up, and he told me that his BIL was highly offended that I hadn’t said “thank you for your service”. I thought this was bullshit and so did my neighbor - apparently this guy had never left the country, never saw combat, and just worked in an office building doing IT stuff.
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Assholes are everywhere.
I got thanked once because I was wearing a tshirt from an air force base gift shop.
Thank you for your purchase.
Oh, um, this is uncomfortable. It was actually gifted to me from my military friend 😅
Thank you for your friend’s purchase.
Young? Literally every person I served with said it was weird over a decade ago.
Well yes young, as the article states that for veterans over 65, it was only 24% that felt uncomfortable.
I think something to consider is what veterans that old went through. They likely were drafted to serve in Vietnam against their will. That’s a much different situation than any soldier has been in since then. I think they very well should be thanked for what they were forced to do, especially since many of them received the exact opposite treatment back then right after the war. Many people treated those soldiers as war criminals just because they idealogically opposed the war. At the very least, they deserve respect and compassion. That war completely changed so many people’s lives for the worse, with a great many suicides as well.
Yeah for sure. The treatment of US soldiers returning from Vietnam is an embarrassing stain on our history.
Especially when the counter-culture lead the charge, spitting on them and calling them baby killers.
Most of those guys were still pretty much kids and didn’t want to be there in the first place.
USAA announced it would introduce a new campaign ahead of this year’s Veterans Day that encourages Americans to “Go Beyond Thanks” to honor military members.
Oh thats hilarious, ’ vets feel uncomfortable when thanked? Well you better learn to suck them off better! ’
Or you could write to your congressional representative and tell them the adversarial claims system is massively failing veterans with mental health problems.
That would be sane and better than any inane phrase.
I went to a film festival a few years ago and one of the films was about the director’s father, a Vietnam veteran. The father was there at the screening and gave a talk after the movie was over. One of the things he said was how much he hated hearing “thank you for your service”, mainly because he thought the war had been pointless and no service to the US had been provided, and in any event he had been drafted and never saw combat. During the Q&A a fellow Vietnam vet stood up and asked him a question, and the first thing the film’s subject said in reply was “thank you for your service”.
I never served on active duty, but I did a few years of ROTC in college, before I had to drop out for medical reasons, and we would wear the uniforms. The rank insignias are completely different but most people can’t tell the difference. I would get thanked for my “service” every now and then and have no idea how to respond. But beyond that, even if I was an active service member, I think it would be awkward. Many of those guys, especially enlisted folks, are doing it for personal gain. Recruiters push the fact that you can get training to develop lifelong skills that you can use outside the military. You get a big signing bonus, and pretty good pay. It’s a great option for anyone who slacked off in high school and have no idea what to do with their lives. Then people randomly thank you as if you’re doing something noble. Of course that would make you feel awkward, even guilty sometimes, like you’re taking advantage of something you shouldn’t be, like you’re a fraud because you know the kind of person this people think you should be and you know you’re not that person.
Most people serve for their initial contract of 4 years and then leave. You get your GI bill at that point and can attend college for free. With the cost of secondary education these days, it is a very good path to take to overcome the bullshit price hikes of the last few decades that have disadvantaged our younger generations. Some people who take that path are quietly angry at the world for forcing them down it, for forcing them to compromise their moral integrity (in some cases) and serve in the military, and delay the real start to their adult life for 4 years, just to catch up to the level of their more privileged peers whose parents can pay for their college expenses for them.
It’s also awkward when people thank you on Memorial Day, which is specifically a day to honor the dead. Thanking an active or retired serviceman kinda feels like stolen valor. Veterans Day is for honoring the living. This is forgivable though because most people are simply unaware of the distinction.
Vet here. I give you my blessing. 😉 I’m okay when it comes from people genuinely, but when it comes from the employee at Lowe’s, it means absolutely nothing, regardless - so I usually just say “no thank you”. And I think people only do it because marketing in the early 2000s really pushed that shit. When I got back in 2005, people in the airport started an applause and some old greasy guy grabbed my arm and took my hand to shake it. I hated every second of it. I wished the building would have collapsed on them. I kept thinking, I wonder if they would be so quick to applaud us if they saw half the pictures I had taken. I deleted every picture I had and exorcized those SD cards within days. And the only thing outside of my own head that reminds me of the horrible shit we did is those fucking bobbleheads and their incessant gratuity.
That said, I did get the third degree from a Vietnam vet once because, he “never got thanked” for his service, “they just called us babykillers”. Which I thought was funny, because when I was shipping out, a young adolescent saw us in uniform and yelled, “babykillers!”, to which I responded, “wrong war buddy”, and my platoon mates laughed. So I suppose getting empty, ignorant valor is better than misdirected vitriol.
Either way, fuck nationalists.
Older veterans do too. We all think it’s weird.
I ask vets how the VA is treating them and then listen to them. People serve for all kinds of reasons, but no one would put up with the VA if they didn’t have to.
I rarely say it, most vets I’ve met, regardless of age, don’t seem to really like being told that.
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I don’t think you understand that word as well as you think you do.
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Sure, and yet you tell us a group of people who routinely need government assistance are there just for the money…
There’s something here you’re not understanding.
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You not understanding is not my problem. I really don’t care to do more than pull your bullshit into the sunlight right now.
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Lmao.
