Judaism as a religion believes that they will be led to the promised land by the return of their messiah. Zionists decided to cut that part out, defy their scripture and do the return part by themselves. Zionism sees Jews as purely a race.
Zionism at its very essence is completely Atheistic. Its father Theodor Herzl was an Atheist.
Zionism as a national movement that rebelled against historical Judaism was mainly atheistic. Most of its leaders and activists ceased believing in redemption through the coming of the Messiah, the long-standing essence of Jewish belief, and took their fate into their own hands. The power of the human subject replaced the power of the omnipotent God.
The rabbis knew that, and were terrified – and, therefore, almost all of them became avowed anti-Zionists. From Hasidic rebbes Sholom Dovber Schneersohn, the Admor of Lubavitch (Chabad) and Yehudah Aryeh Leib Alter (the Admor of Gur) to leading U.S. Reform Rabbi Isaac Mayer Wise, founder of the Reform Central Conference, mitnagdim and Hasidim, Orthodox, Reform and Conservative, all saw the rise of Zionism as the end of Judaism. Due to the sweeping opposition of the rabbis of Germany, Theodor Herzl was forced to transfer the First Zionist Congress from Munich to the Swiss city of Basel.
And this make entire movement, nowadays heavily supported by religious fanatics from more than one religion suddenly atheists? At most you could say it had secular roots. Again, i’m not saying religion caused zionism, but atheism also didn’t.
It was mostly by Jabotinsky who pushed Zionist Revisionism as a way to increase the amount of colonists that it turned into the weird incoherent mix of religious and Atheist Jews that you see today. And the Israeli-British pogroms committed around the Middle East to push Jews to go to Israel.
What a ridiculous statement. Being founded by an atheist (if Herzl even actually was one - he was clearly non-religious, but many non-religious people are not atheists) is quite different than being caused by atheism.
That’s true my choice of words here was not entirely correct. It should have been “Atheists 100% caused Zionism.” That might explain where the confusion comes from.
Judaism as a religion believes that they will be led to the promised land by the return of their messiah. Zionists decided to cut that part out, defy their scripture and do the return part by themselves. Zionism sees Jews as purely a race.
Zionism at its very essence is completely Atheistic. Its father Theodor Herzl was an Atheist.
So you tell judaists they are atheists because they do not fit in your definition of judaism? Are you even judaist?
Knowing things does not require adhering to them. Also I forgot to link the article with my previous post here it is
https://archive.is/dptFy#selection-1085.0-1103.592
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Herzl himself says he was an Atheist. As did most of the Zionist founders. Consider doing some reading.
And this make entire movement, nowadays heavily supported by religious fanatics from more than one religion suddenly atheists? At most you could say it had secular roots. Again, i’m not saying religion caused zionism, but atheism also didn’t.
Atheism 100% caused Zionism. It was 0% religious Judaism 100% Atheism. As you can read the German Jews fully opposed Zionism in its early days.
The most influential ideology for early Zionism was Socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism
It was mostly by Jabotinsky who pushed Zionist Revisionism as a way to increase the amount of colonists that it turned into the weird incoherent mix of religious and Atheist Jews that you see today. And the Israeli-British pogroms committed around the Middle East to push Jews to go to Israel.
What a ridiculous statement. Being founded by an atheist (if Herzl even actually was one - he was clearly non-religious, but many non-religious people are not atheists) is quite different than being caused by atheism.
That’s true my choice of words here was not entirely correct. It should have been “Atheists 100% caused Zionism.” That might explain where the confusion comes from.
Gotcha, good to know it’s not imperialism and nationalism but atheism that caused zionism. /s
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