• RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    I hate these rabid ethnonationalist quasi-zealots but I hate the Western liberal “democracies” and their institutions who enable them in the first place so, so much more. They will parrot their utopic aspiration of a law-abiding community of secular democratic states prizing the value of individual rights above “the nation” only to then read shit like “The Bible offers three modalities for a religiously mandated war” and entertain it. Blood-and-soil “nation-building” ramblings with religious justification were bad when the Serbs were the ones spewing them but are perfectly valid for the only democracy in the middle east.

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      “Sure I hate the Nazis for directly genociding peoples, but I hate IBM so much more because they traded with them”

      Feel like your priorities are in the wrong. Hypocrites suck, but the actual genociders are far worse.

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.netM
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        Israel is a satellite of the United States. Israel’s genocide in Gaza would not be possible without the weapons, money, intelligence, technology, diplomatic cover, and air/navy support operations of the United States. They are flying US planes, dropping US bombs, being protected in significant part by US air defense tech, while US carrier groups bomb anyone in the area trying to stop it. The genocide is effectively US policy, and everyone responsible deserves to hang. It goes well beyond petty war profiteering.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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        By the time of the second world war’s start, Germany had effectively been able to secure its own autarky (war loot and occupied territories factored in) and wage war independently of Western support for a good few years, though it certainly accepted outside help in some regards (like IBM, as you mentioned). Even before, while it certainly did help, Germany didn’t need material and diplomatic support from the Western Allies to incorporate Austria and Czechoslovakia (thereby giving them the industry to support themselves), only their inaction.

        By contrast, Israel’s existence while at war is entirely predicated on Western support. Without it, it would need to mobilize its entire infrastructure, population and industry towards war, which would absolutely kill it as a viable project within a matter of years. The genocide in Gaza and displacement in West Bank and East Jerusalem is effectively as much of a Western undertaking as it is an Israeli one. It’s the same beast with two different faces.

        I don’t mean to belittle the evil of mask-off Zionism or fascism, just that its soulless liberal PR team which gaslights all while making a mockery of the very concept of internationalism gets under my skin more often.

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        Nazis could have directly genocided people without IBM’s material support.

        Israel could not directly genocide people without the support of the West.