Most respondents in Germany, France, Spain, Italy and UK also say Kyiv’s exclusion from peace talks is unacceptable

Summary

A YouGov poll in five Western European countries found majorities view Donald Trump as a threat to European peace, with concerns rising after he suspended military aid to Ukraine.

Most respondents oppose Kyiv’s exclusion from U.S.-Russia peace talks and doubt Europe alone could support Ukraine.

Support for increased defense spending remains limited, despite fears that Russia could attack again.

Proposals for European peacekeepers in Ukraine have mixed support. The survey highlights growing skepticism about U.S. commitments to NATO and European security.

  • Noite_Etion@lemmy.worldEnglish
    41·
    4 hours ago

    No it isn’t, US sanctioned Belarus in 2013 in violation of the agreement and America’s only response was that the Memorandum is “not legally binding” and this action made it null and void in its entirety.

    Ukraine followed the agreement and disarmed itself, Russia did not and actually armed up, you skipped that part… Russia was also forbidden to continue military actions and they did anyway. (This included the illegal occupation of Crimea, followed by a falsified gun-point referendum. By doing this, Russia completely disregarded its obligations to respect Ukrainian borders and independence).

    It depends if you consider null and void due to 2014 coup or not.

    It depends? One can argue? Do you want to commit here or just dance around the point

    No Russian action undertaken under the Minsk II agreements ever violated the SPIRIT of the agreement. While you can claim they technically violated the agreement, they did not violate the spirit of the agreement as both sides generally observed the cease fire aside form the occasional shelling from both sides.

    The spirit of the agreement? What the fuck are you talking about… They broke the agreement thousands of times.

    Rude.

    Fuck you, fuck off and fuck Russia.

    • NimdaQA@lemmy.worldEnglish
      27·
      4 hours ago

      Ukraine followed the agreement and disarmed itself, Russia did not and actually armed up, you skipped that part…

      Nothing in the Budapest Memorandum forced Russia to disarm itself.

      Russia was also forbidden to continue military actions and they did anyway. (This included the illegal occupation of Crimea, followed by a falsified gun-point referendum. By doing this, Russia completely disregarded its obligations to respect Ukrainian borders and independence).

      Such actions were undertaken after US sanctioned Belarus in 2013 in violation of the agreement thus it was already by that point, null and void in its entirety.

      It depends? One can argue? Do you want to commit here or just dance around the point

      If you want my opinion, the 2014 coup made all previous agreements null and void. I mean the coup happened because snipers part of the maidan movement shot their own protestors as a false flag resulting in Yanukovych’s regime’s downfall.

      The spirit of the agreement? What the fuck are you talking about… They broke the agreement thousands of times.

      According to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense…

      Nonetheless, no Russian actions ever broken the spirit of the agreement. Minsk II was supposed to bring peace to Ukraine by providing more autonomy to regions with large ethnic minority populations, ceasefire violations committed by both sides does not violate the spirit of the agreement.

      The entire agreement was Ukraine allows local elections, Russia withdraws then everyone’s happy. Russia can’t do its part if Ukraine doesn’t.

      Fuck you, fuck off and fuck Russia.

      Again, rude.

      • Noite_Etion@lemmy.worldEnglish
        41·
        4 hours ago

        You argue in such bad faith. You also just appeared on Lemmy to spread misinformation and it’s clear that everyone here realises that.

        So to continue this would just give you more opportunities to spread your bullshit, so I’m going to just block you and move on.

        Also fuck you and fuck off back to reddit.