Israel has sparked global outrage after dropping leaflets over the besieged Gaza Strip, warning Palestinians to either cooperate with its forces or face forced displacement or eradication. The messages, written in Arabic, carried explicit threats, including the chilling statement: “The world map will not change if all the people of Gaza cease to exist.”
The move, condemned as a psychological warfare tactic, has intensified concerns over Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, with many seeing the leaflets as an open admission of ethnic cleansing.
The threats also reference a so-called “Trump plan”, aligning with recent remarks by US President Donald Trump. who suggested the mass expulsion of Gaza’s population to neighbouring countries. The posters featured images of Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is facing accusations of war crimes and crimes against humanity and wanted by the IC
As a German I’m absolutely horrified by this cruel and inhumane repetition of history.
Imagine there are people who want you dead for existing. They tell you to leave but you have nowhere to go, because they took your home and nobody wants you. You don’t have anything and aren’t even able to leave, even if you wanted to. So they come, they kill your family and they kill you.
Now imagine there are people in other parts of the world, they have everything and they didn’t even know you, but they consider it served you right.
This world is fucked up.
They tell you to leave but
you have nowhere to go, because they took your home and nobody wants you.Actively block you from leaving and attack you when you try to leave via “safe routes”.
FTFY
Leave-lets?
genocide much?
Can I get a religious war with a side of genocide? Oh, it’s a package deal and I also get free racism? Cool.
the colonial project far supercedes religion here
What many do not know is thar Theodor Herzl and even the first Israeli prime ministers were hardcore atheists. Zionism faced much opposition from religious Jews.
How Israel Went From Atheist Zionism to Jewish State
Zionism as a national movement that rebelled against historical Judaism was mainly atheistic. … Due to the sweeping opposition of the rabbis of Germany, Theodor Herzl was forced to transfer the First Zionist Congress from Munich to the Swiss city of Basel.
But beginning with the first stages in the consolidation and settlement of the Zionist movement, it was forced to meticulously sort and thoroughly nationalize some of the religious beliefs in order to turn them into nation-building myths.
Let’s watch the zionists scramble to protect the settler colonial entity and calling the use of the word “genocide” an overreaction, or even more hilarious, antisemitic.
Fuck trump
Literally worse than Spez
Following through on this threat would likely result in another Arab-Israeli war.
Not with the US support that Israel has now.
Israel always had US support. The difference now are just words.
I’ve seen a couple of news articles saying the U.S. is setting itself up for another terrorist attack, but a couple of Americans have told me that’s not the case and they’re not worried about it… anyone have any insight into this they can offer?
I’ve seen a couple of news articles saying the U.S. is setting itself up for another terrorist attack
But why would the trump administration want an excuse to declare martial law?
Interesting. Thanks.
They still don’t really know why 9/11 happened, they still believe the ‘they hate us for our freedoms’ line.
Why do you think it happened?
Essentially blowback for decades of US military adventurism in the region. Bin Laden’s theory was that an attack that’s big enough would cause the US government to overreact and overreach, imploding the American Empire because Americans wouldn’t accept their civil liberties being taken away and Americans coming back from abroad in coffins.
Obviously Bin Laden was wrong about how much Americans would just be ok with everything the government ended up doing, and didn’t achieve his stated goal.
Maybe Bin’s plan will work now (even if he’s not around to see it), with how crazy Trump’s been acting? That’s actually a question.
https://www.axios.com/2025/02/14/arizona-voters-trump-elon-musk-executive-orders
Americans, on average, are totally ignorant. Don’t believe what we say lol.
Looked at the article… it’s really discouraging the way some Americans support and seem to love this guy. With everything he’s doing, do you think he’s setting the country up for another major terrorist attack?
Again, I’m an American, so don’t trust me, but…
I dunno? I could see Iran funding another assassination attempt (and I can hardly blame them if Trump goes through with the Gaza idea), and obviously there will be some holes in security agencies from firings, maybe a few local people who get pushed over the edge… but a terrorist attack seems low on our list of upcoming problems? Anti-terrorism efforts are still functioning, as far as I know.
What you might’ve seen in a lot of media is that pulling USAID and some other stuff will destabilize regions and turn some into terrorist breeding grounds, which could be true. The consquences of that may take some time to manifest though, maybe even past Trump’s term.
Hmm, you don’t sound very worried about it either… same as the other Americans I’ve asked. Like, unless I’m just not reading your tone right, I’m probably more worried about it than you are.
You’re right, I probably should be!
There’s just so much else going on! Are Trump/Musk like actually subverting the government and triggering a constitutional crisis? Is he actually gonna follow through with the crazier plans like strongarming Canada or colonizing Gaza? Are we getting pulled into a war? Will there be an economic crisis from some huge dysfunction? I am worried because Trump genuinely doesn’t seem to grasp a lot of things, especially foreign policy or technical matters, and worst case scenarios are pretty bad.
Like, if you told me, with certainty, there was a high probability of another 9/11 this month, I would freak out… But it wouldn’t even snuff out all those other stuff going on! It wouldn’t be like a Bush moment that defines his presidency and the era, it would just turn into a big controversial mess.
If it’s more like a unabomber attack or a smaller scale thing, honestly, it would blend into the stream of shock news. Trump would probably blame it on Democrats and politicize it, and everyone would take the bait. That sounds horrible, but it’s plausible.
I get what you’re saying… it’s overwhelming for us, and we’re in Canada… can’t imagine what it’s like for those of you who are right there and can see/understand what’s going on. The seeming lack of concern from some Americans makes perfect sense when you explain it that way. Thanks!
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Y’all getting the latter, definitely.
The guy’s definitely not winning any popularity contests.
It’ll be interesting to see how the media companies deny that this is an open admission of genocide.
Oh look.
The thing we said would happen is gonna happen.
I didn’t vote for Harris because Trump didn’t do genocide
I wonder where all those people are now. Because they were REALLY active leading up to the election (and shortly after).
I wonder if they realize they were wrong.
EDIT: Oh, they’re here, just had to scroll more.
At a glance, no, they don’t seem to be taking responsibility, and even still seem to be taking the moral high ground.
Which suggests it wasn’t even astroturfing…lol
Pointing this little fact out on Reddit is hilarious as people go absolutely bananas.
I say people but they’re likely bots.
Oh good. The chosen people have chosen ethnic cleansing and genocide, being implemented by the highest ranked goy in the world.
25 people have upvoted this bigoted bullshit.
This is why I will always be labeled a Zionist no matter what I say or do. It doesn’t matter how much effort I have put into trying to stop this genocide or how much I condemn Israel… nothing I ever say or do will be enough because I happened to be born from certain parents.
I also never call anyone a goy, or consider myself chosen. Again though, that doesn’t matter. To at least 26 people on Lemmy. Probably far more.
Mean words on the internet vs War Crimes. Oh poor you, you’re so oppressed aren’t you.
I’m not always with FlyingSquid but I’m with him on this one. People on lemmy are oh so progressive but under the guise of "criticizing“ religion, you can get away with saying the most horrible shit and people will be celebrating you.
Like, what does Judaism as a religion have to do with Israel colonizing & genociding Palestinians? Yeah they call themselves Jewish and they want a Jewish ethnostate, I get that. The Nazis did the same thing without any religion, the Soviets & CCP as well. People are just horrible and will use any excuse to dehumanize, subdue, kill other people.
What do you achieve by comments like the top level one? The murderous bastards will just be like "oh antisemite buhu, anyway“ and the people just living their lives minding their own business or people active e.g. in JVP are being insulted for no good reason despite being on the right side of history.
But hey, we sure showed Biden with that protest vote. Way to go team. Instead of using continued pressure to bend the party that at least listens somewhat, we now gave Gaza the dictator who gives 0 fucks. High five. /s
Update: Complain all you want about this take. I’ve been a lefty union member all my life and I got so much shit for saying Biden would not be as bad as Trump for Gaza. I got called Blue MAGA, tankie, and other trash from my own side because I saw it for what it was. Netanyahu wanted Trump to win for a reason. Now y’all want to justify your handing the country to Trump to make a point or give me shit for calling it out. Fuck you right back. I voted Bernie in the past, Biden was never my first choice, but pretending voting for a no chance in hell fake like Jill Stein was a possible alternative is bull shit. We live in a winner take all representative Republic. Until the system is changed, every election is the lesser evil vote. In the mean time, you don’t hand the country to the oligarchy’s mascot and his fascist mob. The people of Gaza will be paying even worse, but now add Ukraine, LGBTQ+, Federal workers, unions, people of color, immigrants, and everyone making under $150,000 a year to those who will suffer worse. We needed to come together to stop Project 2025, but we had to let the perfect be the enemy of the good like always.
Idk who would call you a Tankie for saying Biden is better, the Tankies support Trump.
On Lemmy.ml is where that one was flung around.
Lmao that’s a fucking Tankie instance tho
Are you interested in others being able to participate in democracy or are you only interested in commanding others to vote for your preferences?
Think only having these two unreasonable options to choose from is unfair and not a real choice? Me too, thanks.
Videos on Electoral Reform
First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)
Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.
100% - we need to change the system so we don’t only have two choices. Third parties winning will not happen till the system of voting is changed. That takes work outside of elections.
Several states put ranked choice balloting up for a vote in 2024, all of them voted it down except for Alaska which was a referendum on the system already in place.
https://www.npr.org/2024/11/08/nx-s1-5183210/nonpartisan-primary-ranked-choice-voting-results
Portland attempted it at the city level and saw a 20% drop in voter participation on the ranked choice candidates for mayor and city council. People could not be bothered.
We had a vote on that in the UK too.
Again, shot down. Both sides put aside their differences and put full effort into killing that. Apparently it was too expensive (“we need incubators, not a fair voting system!”) and too complicated.
We will never have real democracy. They’ll never let us have it and anybody powerful enough to overthrow them won’t allow it either. It’s just wrong lizards until one of them does away with the farce.
STOP FUXKING PATTING YOURSELF ON THE BACK FOR FUCKS SAKE. All you’re doing is driving a wedge between people who oppose the genocide. Do you support the genocide? Because shit like this makes it seem like you love it because you get to say “pfft. Well this is on those people over there and I was sooo right.”
Why is this so fucking important to you? Shut the fuck up with this. Every single time there is horrifying news about Gaza. You pull out the blaming stick to say “this is the fault of thise people who didn’t like the genocide!” Shut the fuck up this isnt about you and how fuxking right your vote was.
Do something better. If you actually give a shit. Because it’s very possible you don’t and are more concerned with labeling yourself as having been right and washing your hands of the situation
For fucks sake
Stop driving a wedge into people who drove a wedge.
Quit calling out the bullshit that led us here.
Biden decided it was more important to send billions in weapons to israel as they committed genocide than to listen to protestors, so much so that he thought it was worth losing their votes over it. Harris continued with the same rhetoric. You’re ignoring over a year of things getting worse and worse in Palestine while insisting that somehow the democrats ignoring voters during an election when they need the votes are somehow going to make things better when they don’t need the votes. You’re admonishing people protesting against genocide in order to defend a party that has authorized billions in weapons to israel as they’re committing genocide, with Biden even bypassing congress to do so. Think about it.
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Biden wasn’t able to hold back the tide ethnic cleansing and war crimes the IDF has inflicted on the Palestinians. It is very unlikely that a Harris win would have reigned in the killings, bombings, and all that have taken place since the election.
If you can’t understand why people would abstain from supporting one of two genocide supporting candidates who had shown no interest in making things better, you’re just as much to blame for the current US admin as those who did not vote.
Wasn’t able? He sent weapons, money and everything Netanyahu needed. Had he stopped sending money and weapons and the genocide would have stopped that very moment.
Exactly. And he didn’t. For whatever reasons he wasn’t able to do anything but allow, if not actively encourage, the actions of Netanyahu and the IDF that led to the deaths of dozens to hundreds of Israelis, and tens of thousands of Palestinians.
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And you’re too high on American exceptionalism to realise that the words coming out of the White House have zero impact on the experience of Palestians.
The war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and indeed genocide would be happening the same. The only difference is you need to make up for thinking it would be less horrific if you had a leader who’d wasn’t so mask off about it.
Okay then stfu about Trump since you think he and Biden are equivalent.
You seem to have mistaken not materially different to Palestinians as equal to equivalent.
And that I didn’t talk about the bad stuff done by Biden and Obama, and the Bushes, and (the) Clinton(s).
Maybe if the Democratic party was more willing to make more materialistic changes we wouldn’t’ve had first Trump, let alone Trump 2. It is naive to hope that, and things for American sexual and ethnic minorities would be, generally, better under democrats. But they’re a holding pattern until the Republicans get in, and Dems don’t have people’s backs.
But my original point was that if you’re so blinkered to not even be able to understand why progressives and anti-imperialist would sit out of the 2024 election, you’re not going to be able to talk them round to vote for Your Guy™ if there is an election again in the future.
Rather than understand a dissenting point of view, you dismiss and villify people you should be trying to work with and understand.
Get friendly with Black Bloc and maybe we can all make things better for everyone at home and in the Middle East.
It’s nice to see centrists finally object to the genocide they cheered for a solid year under Bidenyahu.
It’s neat watching centrists get mad that trump is implementing their only policy.
We spent over a year using every means of pressure we had to bend the party and all we had to show for it was more billions for Israel. Nothing would have changed if we voted for the party that spent the last year ignoring our demands.
Instead, you got the party that sent 2000 lbs bombs and wants to eradicate the people of Gaza so he can build some casinos.
If you bomb a refugee camp with one 2000lbs bomb or two 1000lbs bombs, will it make any practical difference for the women and children who have their bodies blown apart or burn to death?
Biden floated a plan to displace all the Palestinians in Gaza too, but he was unable to get any Arab country to go along with it.
Trump will face the same obstacles.
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Nothing would have changed? Hahahahaha. Well you got your change. Congrats on creating even more dead Palestinian children. You seem weirdly proud of having their blood on your hands.
So almost until Biden left office, Israel was killing an average of 100 to 300 Palestinians a day. What do you think would have magically changed, if Biden had continued into a second term, or Harris had taken over who had vowed to continue Bidens policies?
You claim the Democrats would have suddenly ended their policies of over one year of genocide, despite stating the opposite. Can you please point me to the evidence that this would have happened?
As @[email protected] pointes out, Biden tried to fo for ethnic cleansing in 2023. When that met the resistance of the surrounding countries, he decided to escalate to murdering as many Palestinians he could get away with without sparking a revolt in the US.
The only difference in policy is that Trump is speaking the quiet part out loud.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/01/08/biden-gaza-restrain-israel-hamas-ethnic-cleansing/
The ceasefire is still ongoing, despite Israel’s provocations. I know you’re horny for more genocide so you can feel good about being “right” about the lesser evil, but so far the number of dead children has dramatically decreased since Biden was in office.
You sure rattled the monkey cage with this one
Stop apologising for genocide.
Centrists have no other policy. They can’t.
Tell me what Biden or Kamala would have done different? Remember all the red lines that functionally did nothing to US policy?
It was under biden that, we estimate because we can’t know, that ~500,000 gazans died. It was under biden that we continued to send bombs to israel even as Israel pushed the entire population into a concentration camp next to egypt.
Gaza was already under a dictator. Way to go Biden and Kamala, instead of giving a single fuck about your electorate loudly told you, you sucked the teet of pro-israel donors and it lost the election.
You fucks keep spouting this drivel but are weirdly quiet about what’s happening currently. Sure, many more Palestinian children are going to die because of your tantrum but if you just keep throwing the tantrum maybe you won’t have to look at the blood on your hands.
You are literally saying “you’re being quiet while throwing a tantrum”. Which is it, am I being quiet or noisy? Or is this some sort of weird quiet tantrum?
Yeah, look at how effective your strategy of running from responsibility has been. You and the DNC’s policy of blaming progressive voices IS what lost them this election. How about you keep doing that louder. Maybe you can go strike a deal with the Republicans to level just half of Gaza. Because that’s what Democrats in Congress are currently talking about. They are pissed, not because they lost, but because their constituents are calling them demanding they do more.
Tell me what Biden or Kamala would have done different?
This question was not answered.
For starters you can see what Trump claims to be doing different from what was being done:
Continuing weapons shipments haulted by Biden
Putting an actual literal unapologetic genocide advocate in charge
I do indeed miss the days when headlines talked about the POTUS cussing out Netanyahu, which actually happened at several different events. It’s no secret that Netanyahu showed favoritism to Trump, and it doesn’t take a fucking rocket scientist to know why.
For starters you can see what Trump claims
You believe what trump claims? Is it because he also supports genocide? And why do pro-genocide centrists always think that “Oh, You think trump is better?! HUH?!” is some sort of a fucking gotcha? We warned you that if you didn’t abandon the genocide that is the only thing any centrist has ever been capable of truly loving, YOU WOULD LOSE. You did, and you’re blaming everyone to your left for being able to read the writing on the wall.
I do indeed miss the days when headlines talked about the POTUS cussing out Netanyahu
Conveniently behind closed doors where it doesn’t matter. If we had “behind the scenes” biden instead of the biden that actually exists, we might not have trump again.
And they apparently think Ukrainian children are worthless.
Where are you getting this? You’re the only one mentioning Ukraine.
Yes we understand that it’s very important to you that no one mentions any of the side effects of your behavior. Your tantrum about Biden taking the hardest foreign policy stance with Israel in decades not being enough needs to justify the fact that you’re all in here gloating about how much harm you were able to cause. More genocide in more places. Your goal of more genocide, in more places, happening faster has been achieved, you evil pricks.
There’s really no reason to give genocide supporters like you the benefit of the doubt at all. Even if you’re just a cry baby with no understanding of foreign policy, it’s not a good enough excuse for the blood on your hands anymore.
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*Biden enables genocide
Progressives: that’s fucked up, we should stop supporting Israel
Liberals: ackchually its not a genocide because they only killed a quarter of the population, and you should stay quiet about this because it’ll just help trump win
*Trump enables genocide
Progressives: that’s fucked up, we should stop supporting Israel
Liberals: I told you so, I told you so, I told you so…
Choose between two geriatric evil fuckers. Will you choose the one that pretends to care or the one that promises outright destruction. Destruction it is…
TIL Kamala is a geriatric evil fucker
Democratic primary when?
Was she a presidential contender? The dems won’t allow a progressive
Dont accept being given two geriatric fuckers. People jumped to defend Biden when his genocide support and old age were criticised way back in march, april, may when there was plenty of time to push for a decent candidate. and that was already with spouting gaslighting lies that were likely spread by well paid strategy thinktanks.
Then Biden really drove home that he is mentally not fit for the job anymore in the debate with Trump. But also there people were still parroting nonsense like “it was just a bad day” or “he just had a cold”, until the oligarchs behind the DNC put too much pressure.
Then there was the moment to have primaries, own up to the name of the party and actually get a popular candidate. Instead the DNC and oligarchs felt threatened by the possibility and immediately put Harris there and spread the lie that she is the only one thay can take over now, it is too late to change, blablabla.
And people immediately ate the lie and repeated it. The truth is that there was plenty of time to push for a good candidate from the bottom, instead of getting the ghouls pushed from the top. Instead many people let the oligarch koolaid spin their heads, because they rather wanted a genocide than get active in any way. Now they also got Trump as a result.
The solution is to finally get active and overcome the US oligarchy alltogether.
Also, i know that the Propaganda of the DNC is strong and it spun many peoples heads to forget that Biden wanted to support ethnic cleansing of Gaza in the same way Trump does now, just without saying it out loud. When it failed, he greenlit the genocide and mass destruction that Trump now uses as an argument.
Please, dont let these genociders lies avert you from the truth of who Biden, Harris and the DNC are. They are the shiny side of the same coin of US genocidal empire politics, funded by the same oligarchy.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/01/08/biden-gaza-restrain-israel-hamas-ethnic-cleansing/
“many seeing the leaflets as an open admission of ethnic cleansing”…
Gee, ya’ think?
Netanyayhoo only more emboldened since his butt buddy in office now.
People are very stupid, you see. It really is incredible how much the news is like “hmmm, jury’s out, could really go either way” on shit where there’s essentially everything but Israel saying the word “genocide” but even then…
It may seem cruel, but this is the price we have to pay for a Disneyland in the Middle East.
/s, in case it wasn’t achingly obvious
Nah, Mar-a-Gaza…
Chump gets more of the profit that way… And likely his name on it to boot.
Amerigeddon Park
Don’t forget to check out the Restaurant at the end of Humanity exhibit.
Did you ever use Disney+? Oh goody! We can poison you and sell the organs, then!
Achingly unfunny.
Then you’ll love this one: I saw a post with a map of the Gaza Strip overlaid with the Buc-ee’s logo. Someone replied:
From the River to the Sea, Buc-ee’s Buy One Get One Free
