Sounds more like a setup imho
I think she’s guilty (you can’t be making threats like that on the heels of someone actually committing an act of violence) but even that is too much time. IDEK if she deserves jail time at all. I’d rather see her get a fine and maybe a month or two of community service.
I don’t believe that “You people are next.” is a direct threat.
What’s the cool-down timer on the free speech special ability ?
Asking for a friend.
No, the executives, BoD and major investors do.
Jury Nullification is my right.
The thing about Jury Nullification is that you have to make it through the majority of a trial. 97-98% of criminal cases (in the U.S.) end in a plea deal without ever going to trial.
No
Betteridge’s Law of Headlines. Any headline that ends in a question mark can be answered by the word “No.”
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No need to scroll further, folks.
Of course not, but they’re going to make an example out of her to deter the rest of the proles.
Except that’s not how that works. She’s going to be a martyr instead.
I think Luigi Mangione is the martyr here.
There is zero chance anyone in a power position in the US can grasp these terms and their real life ramifications.
Unfortunately that’s my conclusion as well. They’ll do this and congratulate themselves on teaching those poors a lesson. In better language I’m sure but that’s the core meaning. And while they’re doing that the “poors” are going to be making protest signs, at the very least.
This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.
Guilty without the crime actually being committed.
If her crime is threatening then that actually is what she did, in the past.
The punishment of 15 years is just way over the top
That’s not what she did. There are legal standards for what constitutes a threat, and what she said isn’t one.
She was released and all charges dropped. This was a silly farce by the judge and prosecutors from the jump
I don’t think that’s right. She’s been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.
She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn’t America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!
Where is her free speech?
Free speech is for nazis, as far as I can tell
They are going to argue it’s not protected under the true threat doctrine.
In the freezer, next to the peaches.
Ah, so basically next to the freeze peach; got it :)
We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC’s headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.
Sure, but the balls should be made with steel
It worked for that bullgirl in NYC, didn’t it? Let’s make it happen.
The US justice system is f’ed up.
We have a legal system, not a justice system.
On the other hand when women complain about threats from stalkers the police do nothing. You might as well delete the word justice from this criminal justice system.
The system is definitely criminal alright
She’s a scapegoat. They arrested her to make a public example of her. Fuck those bastards, set her free.
Prosecutors throw the book at people, sentences get reduced by dropping things, aclu better get on this and keep her from getting a stupid plea deal, and fight for free speech
Yeah, it’s hard to judge how people ought to respond to plea deals, but 15 years is long enough where she doesn’t have much incentive to take one unless it’s for time served or probation or something tiny like that.
Because her alternative is to go into court and play all the audio and then let the jury imagine what they would do if they were getting f***** over, and let them remember all the times they’ve said things that are definitely not threats, but someone else could be an a****** and erroneously construe them as such. And you’re always taking a gamble when you go to a jury trial, but that’s not a bad gamble to take.
