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    Shandies are a generally accepted thing, and they’re half lemonade half beer, so this really isn’t some wild, out there concoction.

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      On top of that, fruit IPAs are a thing as well. They’re not my thing but other people like them so, good for them I guess.

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      Yeah, but complaining about bitter and then adding more bitter to improve it makes no sense. They didn’t say they added sweet tea.

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            It’s sweet tea in the United States.

            In Canada “Iced Tea” means “sweet tea” most of the time

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              Why are people downvoting you? Iced tea in Canada is sweet. Think things like Brisk or Nestea. If you order iced tea at a restaurant here, it’s coming out if the same machine as the pop (syrup+water) just not carbonated.

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                If you order an iced tea in Canada you are getting Nestea/Brisk like 95% of the time. Both are sweet teas, but are marketed and labelled as “Iced Tea”, not “Sweet Tea” - ask our American beverage overlords Coke/Pepsi why

                If you are in a cafe, or some other place where the expectation is that they brew their own, then yes, it’s generally unsweetened - but it’s also usually explicitly labelled as such on the menu so you know whether you are getting brewed tea vs a glass of corn syrup

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                  Brisk makes me so sad. I’ll just do a soda instead at that point. I’ll do unsweetened iced tea or sweet tea, but not that trash.

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                  Alright that’s funny.
                  Doubly so if you have ever had southern sweet tea where you could probably put a stick in it and get rock candy back out.

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                  Ok? Like…it means no sugar. Just tea and ice. It’s my default drink. Pure leaf and gold peak make it. 0 calories. Don’t know what to tell you?

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          That’s going to be regional. In the US iced tea is unsweetened. Sweet tea is the one with tons of sugar, or if you’re in the south they might just call it tea. In my travels in the US it’s pretty understood that “iced tea” is unsweetened.

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            I mean if Nestlé Iced Tea is considered “unsweetened” as I’ve read down in the comment chain, then we don’t have sweet tea here at all lol

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                I’d like to propose a middle ground. As someone who puts effort into avoiding added sugars, it is much more difficult to find unsweetened tea at some chain restaurants or convenience stores.

                Being from the North, I’m no authority on Sweet Tea, but I’ve heard that it’s nearly saturated with sugar. If so, that’s not what’s usually available either.

                I’ve encountered many a place selling sweetened tea (that may not qualify as proper Sweet Tea), but they didn’t have unsweetened tea.

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        In the north of France, there’s a thing sold that’s “beer bitter” which is a bitter alcohol specifically for adding to beer (Picon being the most common one).

        The true purpose is probably mostly to add alcohol though. But it does taste nice.

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      As a PNW beer snob, I used to make shandies out of the Ranier 30 racks that would be left at our house after a party. I didn’t like the beer at the time and mixing it with lemon San Pellegrino made it delightful.

      I now drink Ranier proudly when I can since I moved to Chicago. I love this city but I still bleed green, white, and blue.

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        One time i mixed a chocolate peanutbutter beer with grape juice to make a pbj shandy.

        It was equally as gross as the beer was on its own.

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        I’d seen colaweizen plenty of times when I was in Germany years ago. But then this guy walked up to the bar and asked for a Fantaweizen. That was new for me.

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      It’s lemonade. But lemonade as in Sprite or 7up, not the lemon squash Americans usually mean by the term.

      • Radler: beer & lemon soda
      • Berliner Weisse: beer & raspberry syrup

      Those are the two I know; there are others.

      The Germans, who among all people are known for their long and storied association with beer above all else, regularly mix beer with random stuff. If they do it, I’d argue it’s more normal than American purism.

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        Oh there is more:

        • Russ: wheat beer & lemon soda
        • Cola-Weizen: wheat beer & coke
        • Kirschgoaß: dark beer & coke & cherry liquor & cognac usually served as a 1L Maß
        • Almradler: beer & Almdudler (an Austrian herbal soda)
        • at an Irish Pub: Irish Car Bomb: Stout & Irish Cream & Whiskey (it’s surprisingly good and packs a punch)
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          Kirschgoaß: dark beer & coke & cherry liquor & cognac usually served as a 1L Maß

          Hab das mal in Karlsruhe in ner Bar getrunken. Die haben es dort “Snakebite” genannt. War gut.

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            Between it and a black and tan I’m fully convinced some people just associated things with Ireland and called beverages that without bothering to learn anything about the country’s struggle against colonialism.

            Anyways please enjoy my new signature cocktail the 9/11, it’s a tall glass of bourbon, Malibu, and everclear served flaming.

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              black and tan

              I think it’s called half-and-half in Ireland (guess they are more sensitive about war crimes).
              Personally I like a Snakebite better: Lager & Cider

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              Except that black and tan entered American and British English usage in the 1890s as a name for the drink before it became associated with the Black and Tans in the 1920s.

              Granted, I wouldn’t use it in reference to the drink in Ireland and there may be some argument against its usage in the modern UK. But this is a rare case where we Americans haven’t coined an offensive phrase for something (Irish Car Bomb cancels out this small victory).

              I’d make my 9/11 as a smoked double Manhattan in a chilled collins glass made with Russell’s Single Reserve 110-proof Bourbon with a twist of lemon.

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    Shandies are called Radler in Germany, and many hate them so much that there are well known songs hating against them. To be fair, they are songs you’ll only hear on parties, after a few shots and beers, but still.

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    This is actually basically how a lot of “hard iced tea” and “hard seltzer/wine coolers” type drinks are made. It’s just the most flavorless piss beer with flavors added because that’s cheaper than adding grain alcohol to thinks to spike it cleanly.

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      Wine coolers usually use the most flavorless piss wine rather than beer but yes.

      You’ve heard of the cocktail, now introducing the pussytail.

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          I’m gonna have to ask you to show your work.

          Hard liquor such as gin, rum, vodka or whiskey are usually bottled somewhere between 80 and 120 proof, or 40 to 60 percent ABV. Can you show me a wine cooler, malt liquor, hard soda or similar product that breaks even 10% ABV? Most beer is somewhere between 3 and 6% ABV.

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              From Wikipedia:

              Four Loko contains carbonated water, sugar, and natural and artificial flavoring including FD&C Red 40. The drink is sold at 6%, 7%, 8%, 10%,12%, 13.9% or 14% alcohol by volume (ABV), depending on state regulations, and is packaged in 23.5 oz (695 mL) cans.

              14% seems to be the top end, not the bottom end, and not available everywhere at even that strength.

              So in some markets Four Loko does break 10% but comes nowhere near 40%.

              Now write me a 5 paragraph MLA formatted essay with at least 4 citations on what “showing your work” means to you.

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      Alcohol production licensing laws probably play a larger role than the cost of ethanol.

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    A splash of OJ or Sprite at the top of your beer is a great hangover drink. Irish buddy taught me that.

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    TIL shandy is not “sham brandy” as in non-alcoholic (??) brandy but what we call Radler. Learning all kinds of things today. Thank you OOP.

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    I’ve had a singular alcoholic beverage and tbh it wasn’t good and I felt nothing. What’s the crime of mixing with ice tea?

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        A Radler is a German thing, shandy in English. Basically half lager half lemonade. Fantastic light drink. I’ve seen them at Total Wine in a few flavors.

        Beer cocktails are a thing. Drink what you like.

        Prost.

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        Tea does not mix with anything but sugar and fruit, and I will die by that. Twisted Tea is an abhorent product, and the creator needs a catholic exorcist.

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      You know I’m in favor of our (American) military defense of Taiwan against the CCP, but…

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      That was one of my very first “sentences” in mandarin I learned when I was living there. : “不要冰塊”

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    Watched one of my friends put beer in his cereal on vacation because we didn’t have milk. Apparently it was good

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      I haven’t tried that but it sounds like a crime towards both beer and almdudler.

      Man, I gotta get me some almdudler.