• Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world
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    So they’re just already saying the “camps” part out loud, eh? I guess when you have Hitler’s playbook, you can move faster than Hitler did.

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    This is part of some rural grift facilities which probably started with “trouble teens”. In recent years I’ve seen reports of these “farms” for “distressed” women. It’s usually a place with Ranch in the name. Example: https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/11/18/the-christian-maternity-ranch-in-texas-is-a-disaster-in-the-making/

    Permaculture farms, for example, are already well known for relying on abusive work conditions. See Joel Salatin:

    https://medium.com/permaculture-3-0/fall-of-a-hero-f9ac80a08c0c

    https://www.motherjones.com/food/2020/11/joel-salatin-chris-newman-farming-rotational-grazing-agriculture/

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    Is he not aware that the fascist pumpkin he will be working for pops those like breath mints?? Please do send that rapist con man to a labor camp.

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    Yeah, I already started weaning myself off my depression meds. Went cold turkey once, and that was a nightmare. They’re planning to kill the VA, so fuck our service. I’m never getting cut off again. I’ll switch to natural alternatives, thank you.

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      Probably still easy to get from Mexico. Your mental health is important and shits about to get a whole lot more depressing

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    And a tax on cannabis sales would fund these farms, he proposed.

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but… is he really suggesting a federal tax on a federally illegal substance?

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      You hope he is just being clever and indirectly talking about legalizing cannabis, but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

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        but you know that in reality he is just so incompetent that he has no idea what he is talking about.

        The reality is he’s very well educated and an overall intelligent person. His views are pure malice, not stupidity. Don’t be a dunce and underestimate him

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      Correct me if I’m wrong but are you pretending you don’t know the war on drugs to be utter bullshit that’s damaging society?

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        The war on drugs is bullshit, but the fact is that the US government still considers it a schedule 1 drug. My point is that they shouldn’t be able to tax it while still pretending that it should be illegal.

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      I imagine a terrible, awful future Forest Gump remake.

      “They had these camps that helped folks with their concentration or something like that. They said I was a shine-ning example, so I got to meet the president of the United States, again.”

      “They tell me this guy is the best example. Got treated, got rich in shrimp. What a guy! Our camps are great, the best camps in all the world.”

      Camera pans to Trump shaking hands with Kim Jong Un.

      “In Korea, everybody got these pic-tures of their leader on the wall. We got those in Alabama too.”

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    “I’m going to create these wellness farms where they can go to get off of illegal drugs, off of opiates, but also illegal drugs, other psychiatric drugs, if they want to, to get off of SSRIs, to get off of benzos, to get off of Adderall, and to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities,” he said during the broadcast.

    Isn’t it neat how he mixes in prescribed medical treatments? Neato.

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      Uh yeah, no.

      I once thought it might be an idea to try and back off from 100mg sertraline to 50mg sertraline and on day two I wanted to strangle people. You can take my SSRIs from my cold dead hands.

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        “Have you tried going outside and snapping out of it?”

        -RFK Jr., probably

        So school shootings are a mental health problem, so he wants to do the opposite of help. Goddamn, make these people make sense.

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          “Have you tried going outside and snapping out of it?”

          He should let the brain worm get some sunlight.

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        Yeah, I’m on 300mg sertraline daily, and I sometimes have trouble getting my prescription filled (understandable, it’s a way bigger dose than usual)

        But if I’m not on it, the suicidal thoughts usually start on day 3

        So if they were to take my SSRIs, I would quickly be killed by my own cold, dead hands

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          How are you going to kill yourself with your own cold dead hands? That implies you’re already dead. I guess you could chop them off and strangely yourself with them. That’d be pretty gruesome, but you do you I guess.

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          I’m going to try and write on my brain to turn those thoughts entirely on the people who decided I shouldn’t get my meds anymore.

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        Yeah, getting on and off medications is no easy task sometimes. And we already have mental health facilities you can go to for med adjustments. It’s just not free.

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          I think you misunderstood what I was trying to say. On my current dose, I’m pretty good. Less? I very quickly go back to the state that brought me to where I needed to get on this medication. I am much better off staying on this dose until the end of my days, and frankly, so is everyone who has to interact with me.

          That said, “not being free” made it so that I couldn’t stay on meds when I was in my twenties. The several other obstacles I dealt with over the decades mostly had to do with insurance that I had.

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      He’s a big believer in the whole “keeping people on drugs isn’t the fix” kind of thinking. It’s short-sighted and ignorant of the fact that a lot of people on them have a net benefit to function in society.

      What he is proposing is something far more stupid akin to “Well look at me. I’ve never needed these drugs, and I’m totally fine. WTF, people?”

      If you want a country that is doing the proper work to stop jumping to long-term prescriptions as problem solvers, I’m all for that. DO NOT confuse that with these dumb shit he’s suggesting though.

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        “Well look at me. I’ve never needed these drugs [He does], and I’m totally fine [He’s not]. WTF, people?”

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          He THINKS he’s fine because he lives in a bubble with other people who are willing to accept and normalize his unmedicated issues at great personal cost. And now, instead of being kicked to the roadside or reckoning with the idea of “maybe I’m the asshole here”, he plans to make the whole US into his safe space so he doesn’t have to be confronted with an idea outside his sphere.

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        What he is proposing is something far more stupid akin to “Well look at me. I’ve never needed these drugs, and I’m totally fine. WTF, people?”

        Except he looks like a reanimated corpse and sounds like a frog that died on a log in a bog.

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        I agree with the principal sentiment. Except for schizophrenia and other illnesses involving acute psychosis, drugs shouldnt be the permanent solution.

        But this requires access to proper psychotherapy, which needs to be part of a consistent concept of slowly reducing the drugs as the condition gets better.

        Also this requires a society, where people have enough agency to remove the causes of psychological distress from their life. People getting anxieties is perfectly normal, if they are in constant fear to not be able to pay their bills. People getting depressed is perfectly normal, if they are expected to work a dead end job for the rest of their lifes, etc.

        I see none of that coming from the direction of any politician.

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          Ah, but you make an exception for one of the most harmful kinds of perscription drugs that comes with severe side effects often far worse than the symptoms they’re meant to treat. It’s different because psychotic people scaaaaryyy I suppose?

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          No, not just for “schizophrenia and other illnesses involving acute psychosis”.

          My brain literally does not properly process dopamine. Adderall, Ritalin, Strattera, etc help this. No matter how much my stress in life is reduced, I still need meds like these to function properly.

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      It’s all the same when you believe in conspiracy theories, are not a Dr., and had a brain worm die in your head.

      Also, how in the hell do we not have at least a medical degree as the very 1st requirement for a position that controls/shapes medical care for the country?!

      … to spend time as much time as they need — three or four years if they need it — to learn to get reparented, to reconnect with communities …

      Is this paid time/leave? Who does he envision paying for his “wellness farms”? Or is this him envisioning everyone creating some commune farm where everyone is eating mushrooms and killing bears?

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      does that include his new bosses?

      gonna need at least four years to get them all cleaned up and ‘reconnected with communities’.

      and we better lock 'em all up just to make sure we don’t miss a straggler or two.

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    Nothing to see here, just politics as usual, the liberals are just trying to scare everyone. /s