Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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    Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

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      Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

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        You’re a necessary accomplice. Organise. Burn shit up and build better things on top of the ashes.

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        If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that’s part of the problem. There’s elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

        Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we’d actually see some effective change.

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          The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

          Compulsory voting Ease of access for voting Preferential voting Lower bar for running, meaning every citizen has the opportunity to run

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            The president sure gets the credit for a lot of things (the president signed this into law, the president enacted this policy) but in reality Congress makes most of that a reality.

            There is also accountability… but only if the congress acts on it. Which is where that whole “vote more than once every four years” thing comes in. Congress has power… we just have not elected people who use that power responsibly.

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            The US election system is set up for the rich and powerful to stay in charge. It’s ridiculous that there’s effectively only two parties, and it’s ridiculous that a single person, the president, holds so much power. No accountability. Their system needs an entire overhaul, IMO:

            so then go and push/vote for voting reform, federally and more importantly at a state level, shit like IRV is very much within reach.

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          Elections that can affect things on a national level are still only once every two years. I vote in every election but going off on people who vote for but doing it often enough is just stupid.

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            Yes, but those state and local elections have an effect both on how your state and local area does… as well as how those national elections are held. They are far more important than you give them credit for.

            Don’t downplay them just because they don’t get national coverage, especially when they’re going to have significantly more impact on your daily life.

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        Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

        Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

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          every human alive is guilty

          We are, though, if we’re not actively doing our best to stop all this. We’re all at least necessary accomplices.

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      wait ok, i’m confused why do we hate the US government? Is it because it’s doing global geopolitics shit? Like what’s the motive for caring about this, as opposed to like, stopping world hunger.

      Like the motive for the latter is obvious, but i don’t really see the motive for the former. It just seems like yelling at a vast brick wall for no reason.

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        As an American I can assure you that there’s no shortage of reasons to hate our government. Don’t sweat it, just pile on all the reasons you want.

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          i mean yeah but like, what the fuck is the point? I hate a lot of things for stupid reasons, i feel like as far as the government goes, that’s something that i have a pretty direct involvement with that i can pretty directly influence change with. What’s the point being mad about it when i could be doing something about it instead?

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            I can tell you why I’m mad.

            Because I want these atrocities to stop. And you know what I’m not given? That option. Trump has been a scourge to Palestinians and the Middle East as a whole, but Kamala Harris is spewing the same violent, bullshit rhetoric as the very man who was walked out on, that this thread is about.

            Where is my option to vote for the end of this suffering?

            And that’s just the topic of today. I could go on and on about how the the constitution allows for slavery as we speak, and it’s the reason we have so many prisoners per capita. Or how Hitler idolized America for its genocide of the native Americans and chattel slavery. Or how women were only allowed to have bank accounts in the last 50 years. Or the many, many governments we have overthrown or couped, only to install disgusting violent monsters who commit atrocity after atrocity. Or how we created ISIS and Al Quada. I could go on forever.

            There are plenty of reasons to hate the US Government.

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        why do we hate the us government

        uhhhh where do you wanna start. I mean pick a year between 1776 and now. Pick a month, probably.