This is why they say one must get kids exposed to The Word as young as possible. Read a quote years ago about how a 30-yo man, having never heard of Christ, would be aghast if you tried to push Christian Bible stories on him. He would think you were bugfuck.
FAKE NEWS! Technically it never says apple so it could’ve been a Magic Durian Curse! (Which I think we can all agree is orders of magnitude more cursed than an apple.)
I’ve seen a number of people suggest it might have been originally implied to be a fig or date, given the age and habitat of those fruits, not that it really matters what species
Also possibly a pomegranate, which comes from medieval latin for “apple with many seeds”. Lots of things were called apples in the past, and many languages still do that, like the French words for potato; “Pomme de terre” which means “Apple of the earth”.
I had a friend who was never christened by her atheist parents and thus never had to be drilled to believe in any religion. Welp, it was rather refreshing to hear someone’s perspective that all the proselytising just sounds nothing to a person who had never been indoctrinated since infancy. Someone from another religion might still consider the stories from other beliefs; but hearing religious story by someond who was never baptised into any religion? For that person they would just say “cool story bro”. Even for myself who is no longer a believer, I still get some pangs in my consciousness brought by early exposure to Christianity. But I am lucky that I have never been extremely indoctrinated and therefore I don’t feel any fear of an eternal damnation in hell for leaving Christianity. Some former Christians, though, essentially have PTSD by being made to feel guilty for leaving, and have existential angst of the possibility hell (the original Torah/Talmud never even mentioned hell so why should Christians believe in one?)
Foreskin blood magic, cannibalizing flesh and blood of gods, slaves obey your masters and instructions for keeping slaves and not beating them so badly they die within a couple days, faith healing and magic tricks described as miracles, plenty of fucked up stuff in the Christian bible. Childhood indoctrination is very effective for cults, armies, and religions.
It’s like a Jesuit allegedly said, can’t remember who or when, it might have been in a movie - “Give me a man for the first ten years of his life, you can have him for the rest, you’ll never break him”.
This is why they say one must get kids exposed to The Word as young as possible. Read a quote years ago about how a 30-yo man, having never heard of Christ, would be aghast if you tried to push Christian Bible stories on him. He would think you were bugfuck.
FAKE NEWS! Technically it never says apple so it could’ve been a Magic Durian Curse! (Which I think we can all agree is orders of magnitude more cursed than an apple.)
I’ve seen a number of people suggest it might have been originally implied to be a fig or date, given the age and habitat of those fruits, not that it really matters what species
Also possibly a pomegranate, which comes from medieval latin for “apple with many seeds”. Lots of things were called apples in the past, and many languages still do that, like the French words for potato; “Pomme de terre” which means “Apple of the earth”.
Apple just kinda mean fruit, so it’s quite vague.
The Dutch word for ‘potato’ is ‘aardappel’ which translates literally as “earth apple”
True, but I feel like in these discussions I really need to know which fruit it was that God was chatting with Great-Grandma about that afternoon.
The very next thing they do is sew fig leaves together for clothing so…
I had a friend who was never christened by her atheist parents and thus never had to be drilled to believe in any religion. Welp, it was rather refreshing to hear someone’s perspective that all the proselytising just sounds nothing to a person who had never been indoctrinated since infancy. Someone from another religion might still consider the stories from other beliefs; but hearing religious story by someond who was never baptised into any religion? For that person they would just say “cool story bro”. Even for myself who is no longer a believer, I still get some pangs in my consciousness brought by early exposure to Christianity. But I am lucky that I have never been extremely indoctrinated and therefore I don’t feel any fear of an eternal damnation in hell for leaving Christianity. Some former Christians, though, essentially have PTSD by being made to feel guilty for leaving, and have existential angst of the possibility hell (the original Torah/Talmud never even mentioned hell so why should Christians believe in one?)
Foreskin blood magic, cannibalizing flesh and blood of gods, slaves obey your masters and instructions for keeping slaves and not beating them so badly they die within a couple days, faith healing and magic tricks described as miracles, plenty of fucked up stuff in the Christian bible. Childhood indoctrination is very effective for cults, armies, and religions.
It’s like a Jesuit allegedly said, can’t remember who or when, it might have been in a movie - “Give me a man for the first ten years of his life, you can have him for the rest, you’ll never break him”.