I think English signs itself isn’t always sus. But Israeli flags? Come on.

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    There are entire slum complexes in Rio de Janeiro under the control of evangelical syndicates who call themselves the armies of Israel, and who repress any religion other than their church.

    This is the afterglow of project ‘damn, 1960s America is too woke, lets preach in the third world’.

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      There are entire slum complexes in Rio de Janeiro under the control of evangelical syndicates who call themselves the armies of Israel, and who repress any religion other than their church.

      Complexo de Israel (Israel Complex) is fucking terrifying, the worst of the worst that Rio has to offer. Neo-pentecostal militarized gangs using repression tactics that actually sound like what Israel does to Palestinians

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      This is why (I have several more historical reasons actually) I believe we need to ban missionaries and people that evangelize the Christian bible (or any religion for that matter).

      They rely on predatory tactics to spread their message and often plant seeds of division where they preach. I was reading a story about missionaries’ tactics and one of them included only giving food to the poor that would agree to listen to the Bible. They wouldn’t give poor people food until they sat down and listened to the priest.

      It’s sickening.

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          Iran and Saudi Arabia banned missionaries and building churches, it’s the only law I wish western countries would just adopt.

          The church hasn’t ended its predatory behaviors, it just has better marketing now.

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              This is the best option tbh, if you can’t ban it outright at least prevent outside actors from coming to your country and treating their “mission” like it’s a vacation and opportunity to gawk at the backwards locals who desperately need your help.

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        This is why (I have several more historical reasons actually) I believe we need to ban missionaries and people that evangelize the Christian bible (or any religion for that matter).

        Anyone who disagrees with this probably needs to self crit honestly.

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          I have lots of religious friends, I love them dearly.

          But the fact of the matter is that religion has been a covert tool for organizations and governments to engage in disinformation and even information warfare in the past. It still is used today.

          How missionaries in Africa spread the myth that aids is spread through gay sex and did the opposite of promoting protection during sex.

          It’s gotten people killed and ruined lives

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              In another thread I ran into this nonsense and instead of doing the self crit, the other person accused me of being a bad faith bigot and went whining to the mods.

              Like I’m directly quoting the most famous sermon Jesus ever gave and that’s supposed to be an outlier? These are mainstream opinions held by the majority of the faithful.

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    English signs itself isn’t always sus

    It is 100% sus when the country isn’t English. It implies the signs are there to beg for American support, not for support within their own borders (or from neighbours and allies)

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      I don’t believe you have ever attended or seen a protest in a country that does not speak English. English language signs are common in both right wing and left wing protests. By common, I mean that they are gonna be present, if not in big numbers, than in small numbers, basically at any protest.

      Why?

      Over 150 countries around the world have English as a required subject in school. Everyone learns English now, and in a few generations the majority of the world population will probably be at least slightly bilingual in English. It is the global auxiliary language. When a socialist from Japan and a socialist from Brazil want to talk to each other, what language do you think they use? Do they think they just refuse to use English (the only language they have in common) bc America is the Great Satan?

      To assume that any message written in English is necessarily directed to Americans is just absurdly Americentric thinking

      Do you think these pro-LGBT protesters in Thailand and Japan are seeking American military intervention? Or do you just think they want the whole world to know what they are saying?

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      This is false, pro-Palestine protests in Japan and South Korea have both used English signage. We need better heuristics for ops than “hehe English sign”

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      My city has a large international community that is a bit more activist than the local community do some protest will have mostly English signs even if they are anti imperialist. But generally I agree with you

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    Brazilian chuds have been flying israeli flags alongside brazilian flags for years now, this is absolutely not surprising

    The english signs is pretty sus though, I agree on that

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    reminder it wasnt as full as this image makes it look like.

    without the state apparatus in his favor, bolsonaro lost most of his fervent supporters. evangelical conservatism is very much alive and well here though, just waiting for the next bolsonaro.

    also lula is probably more likely to support the damn evangelicals in their bloodlust than to send any tanks.

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      that last part is so true lmao

      when these evangelical leaders were reaching their peak, back in late 00’s/early 10’s, the PT decided to support rather than to fight them, in the hopes that they would get electoral support (which they even did, for a time; but like any reactionary opportunist, those leaders soon turned their back on the party)

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          Tbh, Maduro also has the support of Protestants (I believe they are neo-Pentecostals and not the old local Protestants). These people are usually opportunists, as we’ve seen in Brazil and places like Guatemala. By the way, these neo-Pentecostals are very hostile towards the actual local Protestant churches, most of which were left-wing and oppressed during the Juntas.

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            It’s a mistake, the only issue is that the opposition is also super reactionary when it comes to religion. (Bring up Maria Lionza in front of exiles, they use their shit)

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          lula loves conciliation with these dangerous groups, hes constantly flirting with our fascist military, religious zealots and all sorts of dangerous groups.

          id say hes probably worse than chavez in this regard.

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    Evangelicals are one of the biggest voting block of the Brazilian right and they’re obsessed with their supporters of Israel

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    This colour revolution ain’t gonna fund itself. Wonder which focus group landed on yellow. Capitalists gonna do this shit forever until they are stopped

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      Wonder which focus group landed on yellow.

      I reckon it was more about convenience than anything else. That’s the Brazilian football jersey, a lot of people have one of these in their closets, so that’s very handy

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      By the way, with the twitter ban, what she’s doing is currently an infraction. This means if someone snitches on her she might have to pay R$50k, which is just shy of 10k in USD. That is, unless she’s tweeting from outside of Brazil.