Chronicon [comrade/them]

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Cake day: May 10th, 2024

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  • it all depends on the implementation tbh. At best this’ll be tone policing of antizionists that would never be applied to islamophobes, but at worst it could be as you say, justification for mass censorship of anti-zionist content

    I don’t think it’ll just stop at censoring people using “zionist pigs” as an insult (which isn’t antisemitic to begin with ofc), it’ll probably go further because the people that cajoled twitch into making this change in the first place will keep pushing those same buttons (threatening advertisers with smear campaigns) again and again, but there must be limits to how far they can be pushed






  • “protect the value of food” really hits the nail on the head

    First they’ll do what, shame consumers about letting some lettuce spoil that one time? Then they’ll donate some wasted food to food banks or whatever (which they already do) and the rest will go to be anaerobically digested by bacteria, cause god forbid anyone get “suboptimal” food from the dumpster and eat it. Human digestion produces greenhouse gases! its bad for the planet!

    This is just like liberal rhetoric about homelessness. We have to eradicate it because living on the street or in tents or huts or encampments isn’t “dignified” but we do that by chasing them around with police violence and private security and pouring millions into the NGO/nonprofit industrial complex to house like 40 people a year, rather than serious investments in public housing and services






  • And even if we did get together and tried to so stuff, the average Joe is just going to call the cops on us, or shoot at us or drive a truck into us

    in my experience that just isn’t true in a lot of places/situations tbh

    I’ve been threatened with a gun (that was never produced and probably didn’t exist) and yelled at (ironically the guy thought we were anarchists and shouted about how stalin was right and we should all be shot) and cops called (if you have a large enough group, they won’t be able to coordinate a response on short notice very well and may well just leave you alone or come and impotently complain at you before going home), and it’s never worked to stop the action (not to say it never will, these were low stakes actions, relatively speaking, but still)

    major support for just doing stuff and seeing what happens, you can achieve more than you think before the repression really kicks in, and you’ll learn a lot very fast.



  • probably because nobody enjoys creating such a giant shitshow that people start going all conspiracy mode. it’s very stressful, and this place has always been a bit of a pain to admin even in good times I feel like, so this may have just been the straw that broke the camel’s back in terms of burning out.

    idk, we will see, I also had no interest in seeing them resign over this, but I think we’re probably not going back if I had to guess. We should have more than 1 active admin at any given time, its too much burden for one person to shoulder and its been a while since I’ve seen more than the occasional peep from anyone but carcosa

    Edit: nope guess they’re back in some capacity. fuck yeah https://hexbear.net/post/3868611


  • The problem I have is that we already did this struggle sesh back when rule 8 went in and ultimately reached a compromise and the dredge tank was created. I don’t think there’s an ulterior motive, but we saw then that a lot of people really wanted this content, why go to ban it again without like, really detailed and transparent reasons to win people over? (though some % ofc will hate any change) That’s why people are assigning some amount of ulterior motive, I feel.

    I think there is a certain amount of smug self-satisfiedness on the comm, and better guardrails against that would probably be appreciated (by me at the very least), but frankly to me, dunking on elon musk and other known quantities gets stale and pointless in a way the more dredgey content usually isn’t, since it can come from anywhere. Randos with no PR department say the quiet part out loud more, about what liberalism really is (and other topics).

    IMO, the line that should have been drawn based on your rationale is more “how people are engaging with the comm/content” and not “what type of people we’re allowed to make fun of on the comm”, I just don’t feel like the latter rule solves the stated problem… We can be unnecessarily smug and shitty towards public figures too!

    The actual problem is a very sticky one and ultimately a judgement call on the part of mods… but so is deciding what is notable enough for c/gossip now or c/the_dunk_tank before, that process is almost completely arbitrary and it doesn’t even prevent people from being unthinking smuglords, so what’s the point? At that point just let mods delete things for “everyone is stupid but me” smugness, it’d be equally arbitrary and more effective




  • yeah this is where I’m at. This community thrived and built culture on treating dumbshit liberals with the respect they deserved. If they come in with some tired-ass arguments we’ve all seen a thousand times we laugh them out of the room. If they come with something novel or any genuine curiosity then they might get engaged with on a more serious level.

    That’s the sort of dynamic that creates our in-group and brings in disillusioned liberals. Or at least one part of it. Considering where it’s gotten me politically, I think that is a good dynamic to foster, even if it brings along occasional shitheads that need to be purged.