• mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    two points here:

    one: it’s not the same as the black kid; these people are electing to travel out of the country. that kid is living in his environment. when you leave our nation for another, you accept the rules of that nation will apply to you. if you don’t want that, DON’T SPEND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO TRAVEL THERE.

    A better question: if these travelers are such freedom loving gun enthusiasts, why don’t they patronize countries that invite their tourism? HUH.

    And two:

    Want to travel? You don’t get to bring your own rules.

    Try taking a small amount of marijuana to singapore.

    Do I agree with their laws? NO. Do I fuck around and attempt to find out? No. I have better things to do with my life than languish in a jail or be executed for pot.

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      7 months ago

      Holy shit, you’re actually trying to argue that it’s unjust to be punished for intentionally breaking a law, but perfectly fine to be punished with 10 years in prison for making a mistake.

      You’re very blatantly playing the role of the racist conservative gleefully cheering on the imprisonment of a person from a group they don’t like, regardless of the justness of the reason, and you have no idea.

      Do I fuck around and attempt to find out? No.

      Again, you keep trying to paint it as them intentionally breaking the law. There is no indication of this. It seems just dishonest at this point to continually frame it this way. They didn’t “attempt to find out” they fucked up. Why is this so hard for you to admit?

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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        7 months ago

        You’re very blatantly playing the role of the racist conservative

        lol put down the bong son… jfc, get over yourselves

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          7 months ago

          You’ve made it clear the reason you have a hard on for these people being punished is that they gun owners and you don’t like gun owners. I’m just holding the mirror up and you don’t like what you see.

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            7 months ago

            “Gun owner” is not an immutable attribute. Its not a skin colour. Comparing dislike of gun owners to racism is ridiculous.

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              7 months ago

              One can only commit an injustice against a person if it’s an immutable characteristic? That seems dumb in and of itself.

              Ftr, possessing drugs is not a immutable attribute either.

              But if that’s your hang up, the logical next thought would be “what if I take race out of it” and it’s just a conservative cheering on someone doing serious jail time for possession of a small amount of marijuana.

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                7 months ago

                Then that’s a different issue and should be handled according to what a person does/possesses and why on a case-by-case basis.

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                  7 months ago

                  You avoided an important question in my post which undermined your whole point.

                  I stand by my point, their desire (and probably yours) is to make a gun owner suffer because you don’t like them, justice and objectivity be damned. It’s just like a racist conservative.

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                    7 months ago

                    I can’t take your argument seriously.

                    People are (rightfully) glad that reckless idiots travelling to other countries carrying literal explosive devices have been arrested, and your takeaway is there is… racism directed towards gun owners?

                    You’re delusional.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
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            7 months ago

            You’ve made it clear the reason you have a hard on for these people being punished is that they gun owners and you don’t like gun owners

            oof, another swing and a miss. you’re so damned close tho kid… tell you what. I make a distinction. I actually have a ton of respect for many gun owners; unfortunately, too many are fucking idiots who don’t keep their weapons and ammo accounted for.

            And I despise those fucks. They’re the idiots getting children killed, supplying criminals with weapons and pissing off our neighbor countries with petty bullshit like this.

            What I’d like to see happen: responsible people keep their privileges - but what I’m certain is going to happen is that everyone is going to be punished because the fucking morons can’t stop leaving their pewpews in their fucking unlocked cars.

            https://jalopnik.com/youve-got-to-stop-keeping-your-gun-in-your-car-1850929717

            so… you do you sport, will probably block you so I don’t have to explain shit after this.