• bdonvr@thelemmy.clubOP
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    7 months ago

    My mom sent me this and said “must watch”

    My mother is a post-op trans woman btw, and also the most reactionary conservative person I have ever met.

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      7 months ago

      My mother is a post-op trans woman btw, and also the most reactionary conservative person I have ever met.

      May even be some boomeresque sunk cost fallacy: “UNLESS YOU SPENT X DOLLARS ON SURGERY LIKE I DID, YOU DON’T COUNT!”

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        7 months ago

        Transmedicalists are unfortunately a real thing, and as you could imagine, they do tend to be very white and privileged.

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        7 months ago

        there are a sect of (mostly, in my experience) older, white trans people who still seem to be locked into the rigid structure of gender roles and believe that you can only be considered your gender after numerous (very expensive!) surgeries and presenting in a certain way.

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          7 months ago

          To a large degree it’s a function of what medical gatekeeping for transition looked like until 2011 in the US. You get through that either by learning to lie to doctors (often with community support) or internalizing it heavily.

          You still see that with younger transmeds/people who self identify as HSTS. But I think you’re right that it’s mostly older white trans people.

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            7 months ago

            oh yeah it is absolutely the medical structure that made so many of them internalize it. i’ve observed that so many of them seem to treat transness as a disease or an unfortunate affliction they must overcome through treatment and that’s 100% a result of navigating the medical system. its an inherent flaw with tying transition to the medical system i think, but i digress.

            but its also just them being older too. they just grew up with heavier enforcement of the patriarchal standard (women look this way, men look this way, you need these parts to be female and these parts to be male). its super generational, i think younger transmeds are a very loud yet tiny minority.

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          7 months ago

          Capitalist mindset means everything is more legitimate if it’s also more expensive.

          Oh, nice apartment, but it’s not a real house, unlike my McMansion.

          Cute boat, but my yacht is better.

          Oh you have a functional car? Yeah I drive a hummer.

          Darling, you took an uber here? My chauffeur drove me in a limousine.

          Etc etc.

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            7 months ago

            That’s why rich assholes make the worst relatives at social gatherings, too. They’re the ones that must be the toppers all the time: “oh, you went on vacation to (affordable) place? I went to (expensive) place with authentic (foreign thing that is prestigious to insufferable rich assholes)” as a regular conversation topic.