As it’s often the case with major releases, they feel both like the end of a journey and the beginning of a new one. Short clip showing all Let me first cover why Penpot 2.0 is such an impactful release. Once again, we delivered on our promise to bring developers and designers closer together. Our bold movement to build CSS Grid Layout and enable designers to create responsive interfaces matching coding constructs was unexpected. The design tool space has changed forever. Component Lib...
  • ShortN0te@lemmy.ml
    1482·
    7 months ago

    I hate when i have to go 4 links deep to get an explanation of what it even is.

    • tarius@lemmy.ml
      54·
      7 months ago

      Penpot is the first open-source design tool for design and code collaboration. Designers can create stunning designs, interactive prototypes, design systems at scale, while developers enjoy ready-to-use code and make their workflow easy and fast. And all of this with no handoff drama.

      https://github.com/penpot/penpot

      • RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world
        24·
        7 months ago

        This is personally such a big issue in open source software.

        “Blazing fast!” “Enhances your development” “Makes developing exhilarating user experiences faster and easier!”

        I DONT EVEN KNOW WTF IT IS!!!

        • d-RLY?@lemmy.ml
          6·
          7 months ago

          For real! The only thing that matches this frustration of trying to find out wtf something is and not just “feel good” BS statements about whatever it might be is surveys. Fuck me am I going to snap one day over fucking surveys on big companies. I hate going to support pages for getting like drivers to install for a PC I am working on and knowing that before I can even press “search” I get a box in the middle of the fucking screen already asking “How’d We Do?” or “Got three minutes to let us know how well we helped you today???” I would try to just start filling them out, but I don’t want to have the very fed-posting-ish words I have for them to be tied to a customer’s PC.

          Ignore this unless you (the persons reading this) either don’t understand how fucked so many surveys are as a worker. Just thinking about how much I hate them means I needed a therapeutic rant to get it out. And I am not just going to delete it after typing it at this point. lol

          And the surveys that all big companies have are rigged to begin with. They all have either numbers or stars and comment boxes. But depending on the company and situation the rating part might be tied to a specific worker that may have even been the only good part of the interaction. So giving a real “rating” only means that worker is raked over the coals and can be written up. Even if the comments part easily shows this to be the case. The big box chain I fix PCs for does this and my co-workers and myself are constantly fucked over by customers that we were told point-blank that we helped them more than anyone else. But since those customers are fuming about all the other stuff (that was completely out of our control), they give whatever the lowest rating is and the comments about us specifically being good are ignored. All because those comments parts don’t really matter to high-er level managers and corporate. Can’t be removed from our metrics as being clearly about something else. So it just becomes about “well it means you will need to get more positive ratings to cancel it out”.

          And as a customer, they use the whole “concern about wanting feedback” as 100% go ahead to just spam the ever living shit out of your txts, email, and even start harassing via calls that they force workers to make. FUCK SURVEYS so much from both a worker and customer standpoint! I volunteer to be the executioner of the people that make this shit a policy of a company (and of course the CEO, other C level folks, and every single member of their boards once the revolution comes.

      • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        13·
        7 months ago

        It’s especially annoying when it’s on a subdomain that has no links to the primary web site. e.g. when clicking the company logo in the header of a blog entry at blog.<company>.com takes you to blog.company.com instead of www.company.com.

        Edit: Sorry, didn’t occur to me that that’s a real web site and it would be auto-hyperlinked. I think I fixed it.

        • repungnant_canary@lemmy.world
          2·
          7 months ago

          The linked blog post? I can’t find a word about what it does in it. Only how amazing the new version is and how difficult it was to make it. You can kinda guess from the post the purpose of the app, but nothing explicitly given

    • lemmyreader@lemmy.mlOPEnglish
      195·
      7 months ago

      Well, I didn’t like having to wait for their Discourse forum page to load myself. I added their Fediverse account link as well to ease discomfort.

      https://penpot.app/

      Design and code beautiful products. Together. Penpot is the web-based open-source design tool that bridges the gap between designers and developers.

    • priapus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      11·
      7 months ago

      I wouldn’t expect a blog post to explain what it is, as they’re generally designed for people aware of the project. I doubt they’re the ones that posted it here. Instead of clicking links, I just went to the main site and very quickly understood what it was.

    • tuckerm@supermeter.social
      20·
      7 months ago

      This blog post is pretty buzzword-heavy, but Penpot is a legitimately great tool. It’s used for UI design and layouts. I’ve seen a couple of open source projects use a self-hosted Penpot instance for working on and discussing new designs.

      Figma would be the most popular, proprietary example of this type of tool. I’m not aware of any open source competitors besides Penpot.

      edit: It’s like Google docs for web page layouts or app layouts. The animation on their homepage is probably the best way of showing what it does.

    • jackalope@lemmy.ml
      8·
      7 months ago

      Ui design tools are not used to build actual apps and anyone trying toake them do that is a fool. It’s for designing apps.

      • taanegl@lemmy.world
        12·
        7 months ago

        Did you read the new features? CSS and HTML component testing, complete with web scalability (I.e media-query). Sounds very WYSIWYG to me.

        But yeah, I know it’s an open source Figma, because Figma can ligma balls.

        • jackalope@lemmy.ml
          11·
          7 months ago

          There’s no logic in any of that. CSS and HTML component testing is just automating the designer/dev hand off. You can’t make a functional app with it. And it’s not appropiate as a content editor so doesn’t even rise to the WYSIWYG abilities of something like Wordpress Gutenberg full-site editing or Squarespace.

            • jackalope@lemmy.ml
              1·
              7 months ago

              Ah yes I forgot. That was very slightly before my time in the industry. Remember playing around with komposer in college.

              That said Penpot can’t even create links or do any sort of routing. It’s not spitting out html and css. It’s spitting out specs that devs can use as reference when coding. PowerPoint is a more robust wysiwyg than penpot by a basic functionality measure.

  • 4am@lemm.ee
    1·
    7 months ago

    Great, now let us know what’s on the roadmap for Taiga

      • 4am@lemm.ee
        1·
        7 months ago

        Same company makes it, last I heard they announced big plans for Taiga, and then it’s been crickets.

        Maybe this has changed, but I haven’t seen anything recently.

  • electricprism@lemmy.ml
    311·
    7 months ago

    Those OSX screenshots really are selling me on this being a FOSS thing I could get behind /s NOT!!

    • XNX@slrpnk.net
      41·
      7 months ago

      Because windows is more open source than mac os? How many designers use linux? The Mac os screenshots is their target audience of designers and plenty of mac users prefer open source apps

        • garrett@lemm.ee
          7·
          7 months ago

          Penpot works perfectly on Linux, and you can even host it yourself in your own computer if you want. It’s web-based and works in both Firefox and Chromium browsers. (I think WebKit ones too, but it’s been a little while since I’ve tried it with Epiphany.)

          I use Penpot myself all the time on Linux, but I’m usually using the hosted version so I can collaborate with others without having to maintain a server. I have also run locally in a container using Podman, even with Podman’s rootless support.

          But to start using it, all anyone needs to do is point their browser of choice to https://design.penpot.app/ and sign in. There is no setup process or installation needed; self-hosting is completely optional.