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        “If you don’t want bad genocide you have to vote for good genocide”

        That’s so fucking dumb.

        “You have to vote for the Dems because the GOP are worse” is the fucking blind and morally bankrupt approach to electoralism that people like you have been pushing for decades now, and look where it got us.

        Knock it off. Get smarter. Do not, under any circumstances at all, endorse genocide. Why does that need to be said??? What the fuck.

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            “They won’t listen to me if I disagree with them so I’ll just go ahead and agree with them”

            Fucking brilliant plan.

            If the line in the sand isn’t at actual genocide, then you have no line.

            And if you have no line, then your support is unconditional.

            If your support is unconditional, then you have zero influence.

            Stop endorsing genocide. If you have any standards at all, that has to be it.

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                Go ahead and call your rep and ask them to stop sending bombs to Israel then.

                Have you done that? Did you remember to say please?

                Or did your actual plan stop at “vote for the guy committing genocide”?

                It’s fucking moronic that you think writing them a blank check, a blank check for fucking genocide even you moral vacuum, you think writing them a blank check gives you influence? Think it through. Like, just use your brain. You have zero influence over them at all if you will support them even for genocide. It’s so fucking stupid and morally bankrupt.

                You’re giving them a fucking endorsement and you’re calling it influence. How is the impotency of that not obvious to you?

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            Yeah, because not voting is sure going to make them listen to you

            Has the whole ‘uncommitted’ episode during the primaries just completely fly over your head you dumb fuck?

            We need reform, but that isn’t going to happen with Republicans

            Nancy Pelosi Says U.S. ‘Needs a Strong Republican Party’ and Biden invites Trump to work together to lobby Congress on an immigration bill as both candidates visit border

            What world do you live in dumbass?

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        I’m trans in a red state, they’re gonna fucking kill me if they get the chance.

        I still won’t vote for genocide.

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        If voting for Biden is the only acceptable way to register your disapproval of his actually existing genocide, and you believe Trump will do a somehow worse hypothetical genocide, than it stands to reason that voting for Trump should be the only acceptable way to register your disapproval of the “worse” genocide. After all, why should Trump listen to people that will never vote for him?

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          This is what I’ve been saying to libs recently. I’m just going to vote for Trump (not actually. I just want to shut up liberals). They don’t have a response to that at all, they think it’s unthinkable and there’s no arguing with it. It’s only when you’re an uncommitted leftist is when you owe them votes. Yet under their same metrics, I can easily claim a vote for Trump is strategic to prevent genocide, because maybe then the Democrats would understand my disapproval and change their tune on Palestine (I don’t believe this and also don’t believe presidential elections in the US matter, I’m just fucking sick of smug liberals telling me I must, no matter what, throw in a vote for 150 year old who’s slaughtering Palestinians just because he’s a Democrat)

          Hey any libs reading this. Go argue with conservatives about voting for Biden. They outnumber us like 100:1 and are way closer to Biden politically than we are.

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            I am not going to vote for Trump; I wouldn’t even think about voting for Trump. But objectively, a Biden loss could really put some wind in the sails of the American left and, of course more importantly, get politicians to think twice before engaging in such unbridled imperialism like we see in Gaza right now.

            Meanwhile, a Biden win will pretty much erase any meager gains we’ve made in recent years, and the Democrats will take away the lesson that the left, young people, queer people, and even POC to a certain extent can all be ignored. Tell enough reactionary suburban white folks “GOP bad” and that’s all you need to win.

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        I don’t like cleaning up shit, but sometimes you just hold your nose and do it.

        Wtf does this gibberish even mean, this is about genocide you dumb fuck, you’re literally just a fascist, don’t come in here and start babbling about “holding your nose” you filthy wretch