• OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
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    7 months ago

    And you don’t get to no true Scotsman away the Catalonian or Ukrainian anarchists, who did large scale anarchist projects.

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      7 months ago

      if you have cops, you’re not a fucking anarchist society. this shouldn’t be hard to understand.

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        Okay, so at this point it seems anarchist societies are pretty impossible, if all these principled anarchists end up forming non-anarchist societies over and over again when they win power.

        So what is even the point of being an anarchist? To feel good about yourself?

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            Thats literally the difference between us, I believe less exploitation is better than waiting for a perfect solution. Socializing the means of production, even if it doesn’t eliminate all exploitation, eliminates capitalist exploitation, which is a massive win for the working class as it is the main source of our exploitation.

            I’m not sure if after capitalism is destroyed socialist States will actually wither away or not, but Im sure they’ll be less bloody to move past than capitalism was if it is the latter.

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              7 months ago

              i think we could get along fine on mutual aid projects. i don’t think i can trust you to facilitate a meeting.

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                I dont exist in structures where the meeting facilitator has that much of an impact to the point that the meeting would be derailed by a shitty one, but I guess that’s a difference between the ways our ideologies organize.

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                  it was the smallest amount of power I could concieve. certainly, there is an authority in small things like setting the agenda and deciding on how strictly to adhere to timetables.

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                    Wouldn’t that disagree with your ai generated notion of authority, if someone is appointed to facilitate it through a democratic mechanism?

                    Wait, do they not do that at anarchist meetings?