I have voted Democrat my entire life and things have gotten worse. Voting changes nothing
That is true, we dont vote democrat for progress, we vote democrat because republicans want to annihilate us. Voting democrat is just a patch to give us more time to organize. But, yeah, voting for any liberal will move the Overton Window to the right every tims. That is an irrefutable fact. The point of voting democrat is just for it to not move as much as it does with republicans.
We cannot overthrow the bourgeoise by voting at all. But voting does changes the speed in which things detereorate. Republicans are accelerationist in this regard.
no democrat did anything about the overturning of Roe, no democrat has done anything about the wall or the caged children. no democrat is materially supporting the palestinian uprising. and on and on and on.
you think democrats are going to do anything about freikorps doing pogroms against us?
the part that’s always missing from
dorks is that delaying an enemy only matters if you’re getting something out of having extra time. is molotov-ribbentrop if the soviets proceeded to not build any tanks.This is factually wrong, Biden has actively pursued new, but different, wall and child cage measures, like renaming the facilities. Please be more informed the next time you say a Democrat has done nothing. /s
Joe Biden is building the wall and let Roe get overrturned. Democrats don’t even do harm reduction now.
The only difference is whether or not the president releases rainbow balloons at pride or rants about the gays ruining Christmas.
It’s harm redirection; not harm reduction. Or, ‘so long as it’s NOT happening to the libs, they don’t care’.
I don’t have a reason to vote for either a democratic candidate or a republican candidate.
It’s simple as that, but since you’re asking for an explanation:
The DNC has managed to convince me to vote for them up until 2020.
They promised a lot, but once they got into power, they walked back what they said and started talking about strategy and pragmatism. Legalizing marriage equality could cost the midterms. Cancelling student debt is too big of a risk to the economy right now. Healthcare will come gradually if we just make these concessions.
And now?
It’s worse.
Biden’s carcass barely skidded into the white house after fuckery in the primary, the same campaign promises trotted out from previous elections, and the utter shitshow of trump’s presidency. For god’s sake, it took mismanaging a pandemic to get the win.
Here we are now with people still suffering and dying from COVID, the dissolution of abortion rights, worsening climate disasters.
And the Democratic party can’t even deliver on biden’s campaign promise of financial relief. They’re telling people to still go to work despite having covid symptoms. They’re forcing trains to continue running without maintenance.
It took Thanatos to remove Diane Feinstein from office because nobody else with power in the party had the political will.
And that’s what it comes down to. The democratic party doesn’t have the will to make things better because it doesn’t benefit them.
Why should I vote for them if they won’t benefit me or the people I care about? What material conditions would I expect them to improve?
I’ll vote in local elections and I’ll continue what I’m doing in my community, but as I said, I won’t vote for a candidate who doesn’t give me a reason to vote for them.
By this point people Dont vote for Democrats for progress, but just for survival since Republicans have gone full fascist
Republicans have gone full fascist
Please identify any serious difference in actual governance between Trump and Biden. Politeness doesn’t count, I’m talking about real material differences.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/06/15/joe-biden-texas-transgender-care/
There’s been a few more like this.
this is milquetoast compared to what he could do with the executive order pen, it’s a nothing done to look like he’s accomplishing things without actually having to accomplish anything
You asked what the material difference is. I answered. The fact that it could be better is a goalpost move.The essence of what I am saying is this is nothing. Any actual action would be better, this is a can kick to jingle keys in front of voters and make them think Biden might actually still do something (he will not). It is a pretend action to look busy without actually using the power of the office to help trans people.
To further dig into this, Biden gets to do fake shit and pretend to be nice and the media and liberals will just sit back and think everything is good and nice. Trump will galvanize actual pushback and people pressuring Democrats to do concrete actions, while Biden lets them all go to brunch and imagine that things are better when they are simply not.
Can you explain how its nothing? I read the article and it sounds decently substantial. Like I agree there’s MUCH more he could do with executive power here but it doesnt seem like a complete nothingburger to me.
But what about the people here in this thread who said why they’re not voting for democratic politicians?
Do you not consider our actions informed or motivated by survival?
Do you personally believe voting for Biden in 2024 would improve my chances for survival? You’re talking a lot about what other people believe, but what do you believe?
Do you think the democratic party is doing its best to fight fascism? Do you think Biden will do something different in 2024 to prevent fascism?
As a non-white person who is constantly harrassed by right-wingers, and who knows that voting won’t overthrow the burgeoisie, voting blue is a means of not getting lynched on the street and to be able to get enough time until the revolution is ready.
If the fascists start burning my people in crosses and genociding them, no amount of voting third party is going to do shit.
That is what I believe. I don’t have the cracker privilege of voting third party.
As a queer non-white person who is constantly harassed by right-wingers, voting blue is a way for people to check in with their community one day in November every four years.
The fascists are already here. They have been lynching my people, your people, and anyone else they can get away with. They escape the law because the law in the US is upheld by fascists and their enablers.
Biden didn’t close the camps at the border. He didn’t make covid safer. He didn’t pack the courts or use his executive powers to prevent the overturn of Roe v Wade.
I don’t have the privilege of voting third party. I have the priority of taking care of the people in my life because the two major parties are engaged in political theater.
The crackers still sell you and your rubber-stamp either way. Toeing the line is not going to save you and yours.
Have you read project 2025? That will probably change your mind. It is terrifying.
I refuse to let one side’s boogeymen browbeat me into supporting the people who sold my community, down to my blood relatives into fucking carceral slavery. There is no good guy, no option to even critically support in this fight. May they bleed each other.
