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      Reading both of their comments, there is clearly something wrong with jehandesains8674. They’re just regurgitating the same NAFO talking points: Russia bad/Ukraine good, Russia has lost almost everything while Ukraine is still holding strong, Russia would be beat instantly when NATO steps in. Something something Second rate army is able to defeat big bad Russia or whatever.

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        I wouldn’t even call AFU a “second rate army”, after 8 years of civil war and being armed and trained by NATO they were certainly in the first ten globally.

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          Right, but for some reason I’ve seen people who supposedly support Ukraine call their military “second rate,” that’s why I said that. I’m quoting them. Why do they put down an army they love? I have no clue. Maybe it’s to cope…

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            Well if an army is getting armed and trained by NATO but still lost to opponent that they are absolutely convinced to be inferior, something must be not quite right. Therefore the “asiatic horde human waves” are invented, but this can’t be the only reason, since all the NATO training and weapons are precisely made for that, as all western war movies taught them. So of course it’s the fault of the “subhuman Slavs” who simply cannot understand how to use them.

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            I would say it is something of a cope, yes. Because they need to maintain the media programming - the claims of their own superiority. Otherwise they would have to admit being same proles as the rest of us, getting robbed blind of our future by the ruling class. Modern day Sarmatism, now with class denial.

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          also afu is a continuator of the red army, was i guess since they decided to shit on ukranian red army soldiers that die fighting against fascim.

          idk military strategy and similar to explain why they got so apart, even tho they received a lot of weapons, training from the west, summing with what they already had from soviet union, still no match for russia.

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      fascism, as long they get to see “oriental orcs” dying its all good.

      but yeah, severe brainrot, since the start of the war the living conditions in europe have been plummeting, yet people are claiming for total war now. europe never changes.

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      Do they want to die in a war with Russia or something?

      No, they want other to die in a war. They want to post le epic maymays on NCD and watch live feed of people exploding, while safe and sound in their little bubble wrap half a world and an ocean away.

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      because they dont know what war is the west hasnt been in a peer war since ww2 and has mostly been fucking around murdering civilians they think they can fight any war while not mobilizing or directing their economy toward war production and with most of their soldiers being poor people and migrants looking for citizenship. they think that just because they could spent 20 years at war with Afghanistan without it having any effect on their lives that they can just go to war with China or Russia and it will be like nothing. And beyond that they believe the bullshit they think Russia is about to lose this war and that their entire military and infrastructure has been destroyed.

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      They won’t understand it, until they finally face the consequences of war- so far they have never, not yet.

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    “They aren’t getting their territory back but they’ve killed a lot of Ruskies!” Cool. Epic. Blood in the fucking gutter.

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    Excited to hear how Ukrainians lost because they just didn’t want it hard enough plus some phrenology tier analysis of the weak feminine features of their soldiers.

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    Russia is a former superpower

    Former? I’m well aware that the USSR was a superpower but is Russia not one? I was under the assumption that those on the permanent security council were considered supers…

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      In the western elites’ minds, when they “won” the Cold War, Russia became a defeated nation akin to that of the indigenous peoples of the Americas, or any other non-white nation which had been brought low- not a nation which had been compromised from within, such that its traitor elites had dismantled the Soviet Union in an attempt to join the west as a peer- but a nation which had entered the dustbin of history, and was now theirs to do with as they pleased (aka. balkanization, shock therapy, further and further encroachment and dictating the future of the nation to the “defeated subhumans”), while the “victory” of the west showed their supremacy and thus the “end of history” altogether- the white, western Aryan Anglo-Saxons had finally reached world hegemony, so “surely” they were simply superior, morally, ideologically, racially, culturally, economically- and that was that, the world had to accept that.

      Obviously, this take on history and the world at large lacks any solid basis in reality. Russia still exists- it was weakened, but now it is undergoing a revitalization; and at no point in history did it cease to be a military superpower, and its industrial base, etc. remained strong. And even the most disenfranchised- “defeated”- nations, such as the resistance forces primarily made up of goatherders and tribesmen in Afghanistan, can resist and refuse this monstrous triumphalism, and give the empire a bloody nose and then some. But this is how they saw it.

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      I would argue that the only two superpowers are USA and China, I do not think Russia has recovered it’s soviet Era strength

      Also no way terf island is a superpower

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        Yeah that’s fair. I agree, no way both TERF island and France are superpowers, China for sure has to be one. I still think Russia is up there even though they’re not the same as the Soviet Union.