• GinAndJuche@hexbear.net
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      10 months ago

      Part of me has to wonder: what are the impacts on national self-identity of being utterly reliant on a third-party for defense against the historical opposing nation? It has to be one of those things nationalists shove under the rug, right?

      Like how Texans ignore they lost the war with Mexico so hard they’d be part of Mexico again/still if they didn’t beg to become a state.

      Or how Americans pretend the French didn’t win the bourgeois revolution for us.

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        10 months ago

        Like how Texans ignore they lost the war with Mexico so hard they’d be part of Mexico again/still if they didn’t beg to become a state.

        Remember the Alamo, just not its context

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        tbh, any national right wing capitalist states from the modern era are mostly propped up by imperial powers. The nationalistic narratives is mostly for local consumption and a way to discipline the population.

        Any actual nationalistic aspiration is viable if it is Left wing and anti-capitalist because its main goal is to break away from the imperial system.

      • Dolores [love/loves]@hexbear.net
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        Texans ignore they lost the war with Mexico so hard they’d be part of Mexico again/still if they didn’t beg to become a state

        what are you talking about, they won the war & were independent the better part of a decade before joining the US. it was a lucky break that they captured Santa Anna and they probably would have lost without that, but they did.

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          Yeah I am really confused by this. Part of the fucked up nature of the Mexican-American war was that the US had agreed NOT to annex Texas. Direct fighting had ended but the Republic of Texas has to remain out of US hands.