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They went from, ‘That’s stupid. We’re not doing that," to “That’s stupid but okay,” so fucking fast.
“That’s stupid but okay” is a very valve thing.
I’ve played TF2.
Their view of “what? No that’s silly” struck me as very odd.
Perhaps Valve might be several people with different opinions wearing a trench coat.
Preposterous!
But okay.
I get it from their perspective, featuring dwarves in a game doesn’t really help others find similar games in the same vein. On the other hand, they have a tag for pirates and Black Flag differs quite a bit from puzzle pirates.
Alright, I’ll ask the obvious follow-up question: do they have a tag for ninjas?
Of course not. The search result would always be empty.
Potato salad…
Banana bread…
At work? Banana bread at work dawg?! HELL YEAH DAWG, HELL YEAH.
They have one for dragons: https://store.steampowered.com/tags/en/Dragon
We need more games where you play as a dragon.
Spyro and Cave of Dreams are the only that come to mind. Probably a lot more of you include things like dragonkin, kobalds, etc.
Wouldn’t a ninja tag technically say more about a game than a dwarf tag though, since a Ninja is a profession, meanwhile dwarfs are just short creatures fond of drink and industry?
Is there a Human tag on steam?
Dwarves’ profession is intrinsic.
Alcoholics?
Diggers
Alcoholic craftsmen
Because the team behind Deep Rock Galactic asked their community to start using it to show demand. And apparently they listened.
And Dwarf Fortress
It was a fake “controversy” to draw sales and engagement.
But by pretending to make scene they just gave themselves and two other companies a shit ton of marketing and people talking about it.
Its always about the money, they found a way to make a few dollars out of nothing.
I mean, that’s how it should be.
If a mass amount of people want a trivial thing that doesn’t harm anybody else, even if you disagree with it, why not?
This is the original meaning of the phrase “the customer is always right”. It’s been warped by “karen” types into a weapon used against minimum wage workers, but what it’s supposed to mean is “the customer is always right in matters of taste”. Meaning if a company doesn’t want to do something because they think it’s dumb but the demographic says “I like that” then the customer is right, and the company should do it. I know the dwarf tag isn’t about money, but it’s still a matter of listening to the customers on the platform.
Disagree but only on a technicality.
Ideally, they could skip the first part.
People make mistakes. And then they fix them.
That’s how the world should work.
Lmao that happened so fast. Deep rock galactic and dwarf fortress teaming up really worked!
Steam gets free publicity (not that it’s really needed) and it all cost them was 5 letters.
Rock and Stone
We fight for rock and stone!
Did I hear a Rock and Stone!?
FOR KARL!
Rock and stone brother
ROCK AND STONE BROTHER
See? Valve does listen to its customers.
I for one went and marked 100% of my dwarf games with the custom title yesterday.
Glad to see that now that I helped, they’re gunna change it
How many dwarf games could there really be?
Is there an entire genre that I’m unaware of?
More than you would think…
The biggest two that pop into my head are Deep Rock Galactic, and Dwarf Fortress.
Both amazing games btw
Thoses were the ones that actually campaigned for the tag.
For rock and stone!
In Warcraft 2 you can get dwarves and they make things asplode. That is all.
I was surprised to not see Baldur’s Gate 3 on there since you can play as a dwarf.
Sadly Baldur’s Gate primarily focuses on weak human city problems they got from being weak and human, the conflict of the Forgotten Realms dawi single handedly holding back hordes of goblins, orcs, giants, kobolds, duergar, and dark elves must be addressed by a different series I am now sad will never be made.
Don’t let your memes be dreams
Warhammer Vermintide 1&2
Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.
Um… Mario…
Seems like a short headline.
Short headline, but goes deep.
Too deep, some might say 🔥
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Strike the earth
So basically this means there is a significant demographic of gamers that will play a game largely because it features dwarves?
Im sorry, I missed all the fuss about this.
I guess look forward to Dwarf Cart Racing and Dwarf Chess and Dwarf MilSim Tac Squad.
I was gonna say A Dwarf And His Horse but uh… well maybe it would work with dwarf horses. Thats probably got some appeal.
A Dwarf MilSim Tac Squad would be nice
Some Warhammer dev is taking this to a meeting right now.
Uh i call dibs on the idea.
Pay me, because I am a very creative modern game high level idea generator.
Oh, the state of modern games and game development.
Elsewhere, Nintendo lawyers seethe and rage as they comb through almost certainly illegally acquired documentation and game files, looking for any actionable reason to sue PalWorld and its creators into an early grave
If you think vermintide in any way resembles a milsim tactical combat game, you are either delusional or have never played like RavenShield, SWAT 1 or 2, Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six (not fucking Seige), the ARMA series, even Squad, or Americas Army or hell even the NeoTokyo mod for HL2 way back in the day, or anything like that.
Vermintide is basically L4D2 with a thematic facelift.
Tooootally not a milsim or squad based tactics game where planning, preperation and training are key because one or two minor mistakes and basically mission fail, everyone dies.
MilSims and Tacitcal Squad Based Combat games are hugely defined by very tense periods of going as by the book as you can, punctuated by extremely intense moments that you often cannot predict will occur.
Vermintide, like L4D2, is more or less long sustained periods of intense, largely unrealistic, much more forgiving (far lower average TTK for the player) combat, with many more fantastical elements, and then the down time is generally minimized, unless you are an absurdly good team or are astoundingly lucky.
My bad, I keep forgetting some couch warriors keep trying to make “milsim” mean something besides shooter.
Ahahah ok so you obviously havent played many shooters, beyond the more or less generic slop of very popular fps games thatve come out in the last few years with basically very similar gameplay but different IPs/themes, ahaha.
It would simplify the control scheme somewhat as there would basically be no point whatsoever for a dwarf to crouch. Prone might make sense?
Can dwarves lean left and right around corners without going off balance and just falling over?
The idea of a a Ready or Not styled game with the comedy and tone of Deep Rock would be killer.
Not my cup of tea (or i guess flagon of grog to be thematically in sync), but I guess your comment here, as well as others, does lend credence to my top level post.
A dwarf and his horse would rapidly become a dwarf and his lifetime supply of jerky
I hope to god you are not implying that the dwarf strips meat off the horse when its so cold the horse cannot feel it, ala valley forge us army survival tactics.
Dwight Shrute moment
I would lol
Absolutely. I love dwarves
Big win for gamers
Okay… Thanks for the update.
LOL right? Like… neat. Cool that it finally got this random tag… Seems like a slow news cycle for gaming.
OOTL: Can I get a summary?
they rejected the request of Deep Rock Galatic and Dwarf Fortress to add a dwarf tag, the two teamed up on a co marketing campaign to get the decision reversed, Steam acquiesced.
What next? A tag for elves? A tag for tieflings? What a slippery slope!
/s
I’d never support a tag for pointy eared leaf lovers that’s going to far
As far as I’ve gathered Valve “accidentally” created the elf tag instead when the dwarf tag campaign happened. When someone noticed they went “oh, whoopsie, hehe” and added the dwarf tag too. So elf should also be a tag now.
We can do without any tags for those damned knife-ears
A tag for those filthy far-realmers? Where does it end?
I think they could have solved a twitter protest buy going with dwarves instead.
Huzzah!
Rock and Stone!
Rock and stone to the bone.
lmao that was so fast. Lets goooooo
WE DID IT!!!
