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    10 months ago

    You’re kind of contradicting yourself. On one hand you are saying two extremists then later about that Biden is right centre.

    I agree with the later part. At this moment we have one extremist and one right center guy. The reason Biden is running is to be still appealing to Republicans and independents to dissuade them from voting for trump.

    Though, so much effort was put by media to make him look like he is Karl Marx reincarnated.

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      10 months ago

      It is a little bit of a contradiction and I had a hard time following the logic. But your post made me think of something else. If you have one extremist candidate by definition you have two, because from the perspective of the followers of the atypical extremist candidate (a trump like figure) status quo will be an extreme for them

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        10 months ago

        Extremism needs to be judged by the standards of that party in this context. An extreme Democrat is either a radical socialist like Bernie Sanders, or utterly non-progressive like Biden. Likewise extremist for the GOP would be a fascist like Trump, or someone so far left as to almost qualify as a progressive.

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          10 months ago

          I can’t help but notice that you couldn’t come up with leftist GOP extremist.

          I think you were able to do it with Democrats was because Democrats are really everyone else who doesn’t identify themselves as Republicans. With the first past the post, those different parties have no option but to work together as one.

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            10 months ago

            I couldn’t list the left of the GOP because I don’t honestly follow the GOP besides the nearly daily disgust at the things they do. There has to be a far left for the GOP, I’m just not sure who that is (probably because they aren’t making the headlines, just quietly doing what they can to hold back the rest of the monsters in their party). Whose the least offensive Republican you can think of? That’s probably the far left for them.

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      Biden is extremist by the standards of progressives in that he’s basically not progressive. He’s not a moderate Democrat, he’s far right of the DNC, which puts him ever so slightly to the left of the GOP. The only viable candidate for the DNC given FPTP was either going to be far right or far left, and with the push by their core to make sure Bernie was out of the running far right it was.

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        Biden is not far right of the DNC, that’s an asinine claim. If anything he’s towards the left of the DNC. The DNC is just right-center as a whole. (There are obvious exceptions in true progressives that are under the Dem banner because of fptp, but there are like 10 of them or something).

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        Biden is not closer to the GOP than the DNC. Either you are idolizing the GOP in thinking Biden could represent their platform, or you misunderstand that the DNC is not so far left from Bidens platform. Bernie is literally a different party but ran on the democratic platform for the elections, but the DNC itself identifies with Biden and Clinton politics.