A team of psychologists, social scientists, philosophers and evolutionary researchers affiliated with multiple institutions in the U.S. has found evidence suggesting that the slight advantage males have in navigation ability is likely due to differences in the ways male and female children are raised.

In their paper published in the journal Royal Society Open Science, the group describes how they studied navigational skills in multiple species to find out if there might be an evolutionary basis for one gender or the other having better skills.

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    10 months ago

    I swear almost everything in gender differences comes down to how people are raised. Parents gender train kids and that shit sticks.

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      That is scientifically untrue. Male and female have very different biology, this is why diseases have different distribution, and drugs different effects. Biological differences are the vast majority, and can be easily studied statistically

      There are also cultural differences. But saying that most or all differences are cultural is pretty dangerous.

      Edit. Corrected wrong edit

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        To clarify, the comment I replied was modified. It initially mentioned that almost all male/female differences are cultural. It was modified to refer to gender. I’ll leave my comment unedited because of the discussion below.

        See how your comments have little pencil icons in the top-right and mine does not?

        You also glossed over the words “almost everything” which initially I thought were unnecessary for obvious reasons, but thought I better add just in case some idiot comes along and starts hurdy-during.

        Frankly, I’m inpressed. I didn’t anticipate someone to be so full of shit, clearly. You win purely on brazen effort. I don’t know what the prize is, but I don’t want it.

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        Your comment is mostly wrong. There are differences in biology, but it comes down to Y chromosome basically. Most differences are cultural.

        Cultural differences lead to huge differences in the observable statistics. That’s the mistake you make in your comment: observable statistics can’t make the difference between a cultural or biological origin for anything. Because behaviour (and this culture) will immensely affect the biology. Like doing sport or washing your hands or diet or whatever.

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          Saying “it comes down to y chromosome basically” is extremely reductive. The way minor genes are expressed can result in vast differences in biology.

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            Thanks for bringing it up, I didn’t want to be “that guy”… People think as if complexity of genetics is measured in meters of DNA. When they’ll find out that humans and chimps share 99% of DNA

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          Unfortunately it is not, yours however is uninformed. One doesn’t measure genetics in meters of DNA. The difference between chimps and humans is just 1% of genome, and their difference are not mostly cultural because they have almost identical DNA. Genetics is so complex that changes in a single gene can have enormous difference in the physiology of a system.

          There are a lot of misconception about genetics and males/females differences, such that their differences are almost all cultural. Mainly because people confuse sexes and genders

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            And this is completely beside the point.

            I was talking about your assertion about statistics. It’s complete bullshit because statistics don’t differentiate between biology and culture by themselves.

            Hopefully this shorter version is easier to understand.

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      Not physical strength and size. That’s straight up hormonal differences. Ask any female bodybuilder, building muscle is more than twice as hard.

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        Yes, but in the lingo of the 2020s, that is not a gender difference. It is a sex difference. Yes, I know this was not always the case. I’ve read old dictionaries, but at the moment, that’s the usage.

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        There’s still plenty of overlap between the bell curves for average people, and anyway, how much does that difference matter? We share 50% DNA with bananas and the like .0000001% (someone else can do the math) difference between sexes results in social conditioning like your message here. Why?