The whole article is quite funny, especially the lists of most used tankie words, or the branding of foreignpolicy as a left-wing news source.

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    Whoever the people are that got their comments published on page 33 and 34 deserve a special flair (does Lemmy have those?)

    Also, it’s so funny how the authors keep calling the Communist Party of China the CCP instead of the CPC. For table 10 they had to switch between these keywords because the tankies community is the only one that can get the acronym right LMAO

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      “That’s Isntreal and nah, we don’t endorse Israel.” an example of a statement that proves we are evil

      and did you not read the paper, us using the correct accronym just proves we are brainwashed by chinese propganda… by assertion

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        Oh yeah, we use the cHinESe gOveRnMenT’s PrEFeRrEd nOmeNClaTurE, so we’re misaligned. What a joke. It’d be like calling the USA the AUS and insisting that everyone who gets it right has been manipulated by the US government. Sorry, the SU government.

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            The funny thing is i can’t read Chinese but this is one of the few expressions i have learned to recognize and know how to pronounce (still can’t write it though, i need to practice that sometime). Guess that makes me “brainwashed by the CCP”.

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              You mean brainwashed by the 中国共产党 right? /s

              I’ve studied Japanese so it’s kind of cheating that it looks obvious to me what it’s supposed to mean without studying Chinese. Don’t ask me to pronounce it the Chinese way though :P

              As an aside, it’s interesting to note the different simplifications:

              Traditional Chinese: 中國共產黨 Japanese: 中国共産党 Simplified Chinese: 中国共产党

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      I almost appreciate the CCP/CPC thing, because it gives me a shorthand as to know whether the upcoming argument will have any merit or just be bullshit.

      I still look at their actual argument on their merits, but 95% of the time it has gone exactly the way I expected.

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    Honestly I could have told them the history of Lemmygrad myself, no need for machine learning and data-driven APIs, you could just ask somebody lol. Can I get some of that 500k?

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      What if they’ve been here, asking all along, and we’ve been shoo-ing them off as libs?

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    I did an in-depth ‘debunk’ of this study.

    I want to highlight the most egregious part of it, to me at least. Here’s an excerpt from my article:

    As we find later in Section 5.4, tankies have the most proportion of posts with high identity attack against Jews in the far-left community.

    ??? Let’s pull up that section quickly:

    The Perspective API [92] is a widely used [9, 12, 26] tool for measuring toxicity. Although it has limitations, e.g., there are issues of bias and questions of performance when encountering conversation patterns that it was not trained on, at scale it provides a decent measure for comparison between online communities.

    They used an API tool to analyze comments on the tankie subreddits. They specifically mention that it has limitations if it wasn’t trained on certain conversation patterns. The Perspective website doesn’t mention it being trained on Reddit comments or comments in leftist communities. This is junk science, of course.

    Finally, we observe that tankies frequently target Muslims and Jews in their posts.

    I’m not about to dig too deep into the way this API determines what constitutes an Identity Attack, since this study doesn’t even attempt to elaborate on it, but I’m going to assume that if it detects ‘hateful words’ in the same comment as a ‘named entity’ like Jew or Muslim, it just assumes the comment is attacking that entity.

    Here’s the problem. A comment like this:

    “Zionists are pieces of shit for assuming all Jews support Israel”

    or this:

    “Implying that the US gives a fuck about Muslims when they criticize China is delusional”

    would likely be considered by this bot to be an attack against Jews or Muslims. Curiously, this report doesn’t provide a single shred of evidence of these attacks on Jews or Muslims. But, in the ‘C.1 Qualitative Validation’ section, they do give some examples of the toxic comments that this bot identified. Not a single one is specifically about Jews or Muslims.

    Here’s two examples:

    To me, boarding schools serve as schools for potential terrorists, and China’s approach seems more humane than the US’s

    and

    Zionism equates to Fascism.

    Neither comment is an Identity Attack against Muslims or Jews. The first is talking specifically about the small portion of Uyghurs that China has identified as being radicalized, not all Muslims. The second is about Zionism, which as this study pointed out, does not mean all Jews. Neither one contains the word ‘Jew’, or ‘Muslim’, anyway.

    Hmm, I wonder why they omitted that. Because the truth doesn’t fit the ‘tankie bad’ narrative they are pushing? This is research misconduct, pure and simple, and this singular example of evidentiary omission should cause any non-tankies reading this study to dismiss it in its entirety. But of course, it won’t.

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        As an anarchist, I’m betting on a short (yes I own stocks, it funds the revolution, you tankies would do this too if you were actually socialists like me and realised the revolution doesnt come from your well wishes and online posting). As more and more people realies how tankeis are actually not socialists but authoritarian red fascists, they will naturally abandon this label and it will plummet in the graph. its just human anture.

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    holy shit you weren’t joking, if you ctrl+f lemmygrad we appear in it lmao

    edit: I still can’t believe this is real, which one of you wrote this paper??

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        no but it’s the funniest thing, it was written by 2 randos from some backwater uni in new york state (not the city), and a third co-author from Cyprus (??? why), and published on arxiv.org which is:

        a free distribution service and an open-access archive for 2,294,594 scholarly articles in the fields of physics, mathematics, computer science, quantitative biology, quantitative finance, statistics, electrical engineering and systems science, and economics. Materials on this site are not peer-reviewed by arXiv.

        Meaning they found whoever would publish them without asking questions.

        Like this thing says the word tankie 71 times, which is an average of 2.5 per page, of course they would not have been published anywhere else lol. If I was their uni honestly I would give these students a talking to because it would reflect really badly on my reputation to let them publish this drivel.

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              Time to go for the SEVERE_TOXICITY high score:

              Amerikkka is run by fascist Yankees, and Mayo Blinken is the Secretary of Legitimizing Imperial Conquest.

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              I can’t wait to tankie wall these anti-intellectual anti-tankie typie wall wall the wall facing tankie tankie shitposting gets the wall tankie… Xi good

              Doing my part to get us number one for the next study

              Tankie

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          Actually, the authors of this are professors from that university, lmao.

          They were even given some grants and awards.

          Arxiv and similar services are mostly used in actual academic circles to publish pre-prints or just to get articles out there while they’re still being reviewed by actual journals, so it’s possible that this will be published in a journal at some point.

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            Many papers published as pre prints in arxiv never make it out of there, there’s too much rubbish in the academic world, just like this article. And not only in the social sciences, I’ve seen plenty of bad papers in chemistry and biology there too.

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              ArXiv doesn’t filter anything afaik (or maybe they have policy against really egregious stuff). If you take a peek at their mathematics section, any nutjob who think he’s solved the collatz conjecture can export their microsoft word ramblings to PDF and publish it on ArXiv.

              ArXiv does have value because journals overcharge authors for publishing, overcharge other researches for access to journals, hold strict opinions on what they will or will not publish or censor, among other complains. ArXiv levels the playing field a bit by being basically fancy PDF file hosting. Not every valuable piece of thought comes from a “prestigous university”, and restricting access to knowledge is overall a bad thing.

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                lol, I never read papers anywhere else for my work. ArXiv may suck if you wanna go looking at random, but it’s invaluable to be able to read the actual legit stuff in preprint form on there.

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    Can someone please explain “…more Stalinist than Leninist” because from my years of experence being an ML this sentence is absolute gibberish

    Second their citation for the Uyghur genocide, while I cannot read the book to find its sources, is written by someone who worked for 7 years is USAID for the former USSR “managing democracy, governance, and human rights programs” he is known for his “… comments on current events in the media related both to the situation of the Uyghur people in China …” and is an open critic of the belt and road initive in his open seminars,

    “We perform a set of quantitative analyses that reveal the relationship between tankies, other far-left communities, leftists, feminists, and capitalists.” I feel I need no more explination, the bold was added by me

    At this point I am less than a page in and I feel like I am reading too far into this but I am comitted to this and I will read and review this … and likely reply to here… but this looks to be the dumbest acidemic paper I have ever read, ever, and trust me I have read some really stupid ones

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      Can someone please explain “…more Stalinist than Leninist” because from my years of experence being an ML this sentence is absolute gibberish

      This is trotskyist political view, considering how much time they spent agitating, it was somewhat accepted by the radlib part of mainstream. Btw. it’s telling how of entire ton of trotskist propaganda mainstream accepted exactly the anti-AES parts.

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      Second their citation for the Uyghur genocide, while I cannot read the book to find its sources, is written by someone who worked for 7 years is USAID for the former USSR “managing democracy, governance, and human rights programs” he is known for his “… comments on current events in the media related both to the situation of the Uyghur people in China …” and is an open critic of the belt and road initive in his open seminars,

      You can find the source on libgen. Here’s the sources for the preface:

      1 Mamatjan Juma and Alim Seytoff, ‘Xinjiang Authorities Sending Uyghurs to Work in China’s Factories, Despite Coronavirus Risks,’ Radio Free Asia (27 February 2020).

      2 SCMP Reporters, ‘China Plans to Send Uygur Muslims from Xinjiang Re-Education Camps to Work in Other Parts of Country,’ South China Morning Post (2 May 2020).

      3 Keegan Elmer, ‘China says it will ‘Normalise’ Xinjiang Camps as Beijing Continues Drive to Defend Policies in Mainly Muslim Region,’ South China Morning Post (9 December 2019).

      4 Erkin, ‘Boarding Preschools For Uyghur Children “Clearly a Step Towards a Policy of Assimilation”: Expert,’ Radio Free Asia (6 May 2020).

      5 Gulchehre Hoja, ‘Subsidies For Han Settlers “Engineering Demographics” in Uyghur-Majority Southern Xinjiang,’ Radio Free Asia (13 April 2020).

      So… SCMP and RFA.

      And the first ten sources for the introduction:

      1 Emily Feng, ‘China Targets Muslim Uyghurs Studying Abroad,’ Financial Times (1 August 2017).

      2 See Adrian Zenz and James Leibold, ‘Xinjiang’s Rapidly Evolving Security State,’ Jamestown Foundation China Brief (14 March 2017); Magha Rajagopalan, ‘This is What a 21st Century Police State Really Looks Like,’ Buzzfeed News (17 October 2017).

      3 Adrian Zenz and James Leibold, ‘Chen Quanguo: The Strongman Behind Beijing’s Securitization Strategy in Tibet and Xinjiang,’ Jamestown Foundation China Brief (21 September 2017).

      4 Nathan VanderKlippe, ‘Frontier Injustice: Inside China’s Campaign to “Re-educate” Uyghurs,’ The Globe and Mail (9 September 2017); HRW, ‘China: Free Xinjiang “Political Education” Detainees’ (10 September 2017); Eset Sulaiman, ‘China Runs Region-wide Re-education Camps in Xinjiang for Uyghurs and Other Muslims,’ RFA (11 September 2017).

      5 Alexia Fernandez Campbell, ‘China’s Reeducation Camps are Beginning to Look Like Concentration Camps,’ Vox (24 October 2018).

      6 See ‘Inside the Camps Where China Tries to Brainwash Muslims Until They Love the Party and Hate Their Own Culture,’ Associated Press (17 May 2018); David Stavrou, ‘A Million People Are Jailed at China’s Gulags. I Managed to Escape. Here’s What Really Goes on Inside,’ Haaretz (17 October 2019).

      7 See Amie Ferris-Rotman, ‘Abortions, IUDs and Sexual Humiliation: Muslim Women who Fled China for Kazakhstan Recount Ordeals,’ Washington Post (5 October 2019); Eli Meixler, ‘“I Begged Them to Kill Me.” Uighur Woman Tells Congress of Torture in Chinese Internment Camps,’ TIME (30 November 2018); Ben Mauk, ‘Untold Stories from China’s Gulag State,’ The Believer (1 October 2019).

      8 Shoret Hoshur ‘Nearly Half of Uyghurs in Xinjiang’s Hotan Targetted for Re-education Camps,’ RFA (9 October 2017).

      9 Sean R. Roberts, ‘Fear and Loathing in Xinjiang: Ethnic Cleansing in the 21st Century,’ Fair Observer (17 December 2018).

      10 See Zenz and Leibold, ‘Xinjiang’s Rapidly Evolving Security State.’

      Zenz, RFA, and Financial Times.

      Not exactly promising.

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          There’s certainly an irony to academia being run by (mostly) liberals who would rightly scoff at any real research having such shoddy sourcing but those same types of libs blindly accepting CIA and it’s network of bullshit narratives.

          Even from a selfish pro-US stance people should be wary of those who state such high standards for what is considered credible sourcing but throw that away as soon as it favors the way they’ve been told to perceive the world. “This confirm China bad! Sound good!” They’re compromising their ethics and morality of course but it makes you wonder what else is compromised if it all it took was a a shitty media narrative to convince them Xi is personally shooting Taiwanese civilians right now.

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            Yeah the rigor is only centered when it’s convenient or empowering. My department has been begging scholars that are critical of China to become faculty for awhile. Although one of the professors is skeptical of criticisms of China that leave out the context of western crimes and the broader global system that China did not create, but the broader department and the university seems eager to get someone that is explicitly anti china in their research objectives.

            To me it’s hardly impossible to find things China is doing “wrong” around the world. But I am convinced there is a lot of contrived bullshit and misinformation and a lot of it does not stand up to scrutiny, but few actually criticize these narratives. The shit with Sri Lanka for exampleis repeated ad nauseum and its shoddy as hell imo.

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    boy howdy, this “”“study”“” entirely lacks an understanding of “tankie” positions.

    We, according to them, are more toxic when talking about propaganda that’s constantly pushed in our faces - often in conversations that had nothing to do with that propaganda. Gee, I wonder why that would be. Why would people who have to repeatedly explain anti-communism to anti-communists want to let off steam with like-minded people, who also have to deal with the same exact thing? Dumbass takes from this “”“study”“”

    Also, I’m betting the people who did this study are going to come find this post and use it to prove themselves right, but all they’ll really prove is that they think it’s the fault of the bees when a person gets stung after poking the nest.

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    Me reading this:

    It sure is lovely that the “AI” “Revolution” has given hacks a bunch of hard to audit but scientific-sounding metrics for them to apply however they want.

    Armchair peer review time: I’d love to see them introducing a control group for their “toxicity” model by including subs from their other identified clusters. How can you know what it means for tankies to be millions of billions toxic if you don’t have baselines? I do like how they agree with r/liberal and r/conservative being in the same cluster though. On the domain analysis I’d require them to also include the total number of articles and not just the percentages, which I’d bet would give a fun graph.

    Overall, I’ve read less funny and more informative parody papers. For the AI nerds, this one might be fun.

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      It sure is lovely that the “AI” “Revolution” has given hacks a bunch of hard to audit but scientific-sounding metrics for them to apply however they want.

      I’m slogging through it right now and coming to similar assessments. “With enough Machine Learning shenanigans, I can arrive at whatever conclusion I want!”

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        They’re tired of gaslighting people into becoming liberals, now they’re doing it with machines. Whoever thought of letting misinformation giants like Google “teach” “AI” should be fired at.

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      🤣🤣🤣 I’m in tears. Actual tears.

      I’d love to see them introducing a control group for their “toxicity” model by including subs from their other identified clusters. How can you know what it means for tankies to be millions of billions toxic if you don’t have baselines?

      Ironically(?) the funding is to develop a machine learning algorithm not to spot and moderate racism but to spot and moderate the least racist of any two examples. Which means, the project is to develop a comparative model but they haven’t thought about using comparison within the research itself. Meanwhile, real scholars get fired from all over the place for being in unions and demanding a living wage.

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    Cringe compilation: Apparently you can measure how toxic comments are on a graph. This says we are racist against almost every race besides Native Americans. It says Vaush isn’t leftist (true) but then calls his subreddit “far-left.”

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      The part saying that they ‘observe that tankies attack the identities of Asians, Arabs, Hindus, Mexicans, Africans, and Whites in more than 20% posts mentioning these identities’ was what irritated me the most, because it is a serious accusation and yet it’s so poorly substantiated. (Notice how no quotes are given as examples.) It’s almost as if they relied on a computer programme to do all of their homework for them.

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        I suspect that the way they came to that conclusion was: any post mentioning one of those groups, that also had a negative sentiment rating, meant that sentiment was directed at that group. Which is horribly dishonest. What’s more likely is someone to be angry (which registers as negative sentiment) about those groups being mistreated or what have you. By the naive approach they seem to have taken, that’s indistinguishable from being mad at that group.

        Also, the methodology they describe, and the conclusions they come to don’t align. They don’t describe any methodology by which they could determine that the identities are being attacked. It would be like if they concluded some cause-and-effect relationship but their methodology had absolutely no way of establishing a causal relationship in the data.

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        After hearing about the lawyers who got disbarred for letting ChatGPT handle a case for them(and ended up citing like two or three cases that straight up didn’t exist), I’m not 100% certain this isn’t just transformer plagiarism.

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      My comments are so toxic that if you print them and ingest them you’ll likely die.

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        poisonous: if it bites you, you die

        toxic: if you bite it, you die

        severely toxic: my mother in law after a couple beers yes Dana I remember the christmas party

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          Do they not realise that this is exactly what we face in every other online space for have the tenacity to insist that publicly recorded and strongly evidenced events did happen?

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          Their other “trusted partners” are all horrible but putting Reddit on that list is just a self-own. “Look how not toxic Reddit got, guys!”

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    LESGOOOO #LEMMYGRADSWEEP ✊✊✊🫡🫡🫡

    also: genocide, xinjiang, camps, communism, no, inshallah, socialism, socialist, is, the, of, korea, north, kim, dprk, korean, media, chen, falun, gong, news, comrade, thanks, you, comrades, thank, thank, thanks, you, nice, good, fascism, fascist, fascists, the, is, ussr, soviet, the, art, of, lol, wtf, real, holy, wait, ok, hope, wish, you, sorry, fucking, bot, fuck, sometimes, beep, china, nukes, us, war, the, joke, submission, guideline, r/socialism, this, cuba, cuban, castro, the, fidel, lgbt, trans, gay, the, and, vote, voting, caucus, party, green, source, u/vredditdownloader, context, picture, where

    i am now a master tankie 🫡🫡🫡

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      so like the pairs talk about Zionism and Israel and their conclusion is the complete opposite? That we target all Jews? Despite never using the word??

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      “whaddya mean some joos don’t wanna force palestinians out of their homes and forcefully steal their native land, shut up! it’s always been the jewish homeland historically, you gotta be an idiot and a self-hating jew for not taking the opportunity!!”

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    tankies focus more on state-level political events

    In other words, the authors have no idea what they’re talking about. We’re abstracting to the level of classes, not states. Maybe they focused on the intellectually deprived western Marxist discourse.

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      Really did feel like a deliberate missing of the whole point, didn’t it? Felt like a lot of their data stripped out any context that the posts they were ‘analyzing’ had; and drew deliberately-misleading takes from their sanitized data. Like, do you know any marxists who make a habit of attacking muslims? Meanwhile, most of the takedowns I see of Amerikans squawking about ‘muh chingchang’(i’ve deadass heard a white person pronounce it that way; imagine these crackers actually learning how to pronounce ‘Xinjiang’) winds up boiling down to "Oh yeah, 'cause the country that spent fifteen years murdering muslims wholesale in the middle-east, and leaving depleted uranium in the sand to mutate their babies really cares about the Muslims in Xinjiang allasudden."

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        Yeah, any paper worth its weight in flour would at the very least have an appendix with illustrative examples of the comments they find interesting or have “high toxicity”. By just talking about all content in abstract with random asspull metrics they get to claim objectivity while presenting zero actual information. Typical for the kind of people who like to reduce countries to their GDP (per capita if you’re lucky).

        Edit: I didn’t notice that they actually did include some in their appendix after 5 pages with 135 citations. So much bloat and there’s even a couple Washington Post articles there. They definitely didn’t even read a lot of those beyond the abstract. Either way the examples are just strewn around in the text and did not include their “toxicity level” so the point still stands. Actually worst “qualitative analysis” I’ve ever read tbh, and that’s usually already the worst in data science. More like “pseudoscientific cherrypicking”.

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          “If you look here at figure X you can see a selection of the most frequent vocabulary. In figure Y you can see several possibilities of our own design that show the arrangement of the words in figure X into some rather mean and hurtful sentences. Disgraceful. Coincidentally when we sent this paper for peer review both reviewer 1 and reviewer 2 had come to similar conclusions and used a mixture of the words in our paper, the vocabulary database, and some choice additions to say, in similarly mean and hurtful tones, that our work was shit. We can’t work out what it means right now but we’re going to run the reviews through our system for a meta analysis before concluding that the reviewers we’re Lemmygrad users.”

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        Great points. If they bothered to do any actual analysis, though, they wouldn’t have been able to reach the conclusion that we’re extremists. “People who think the US should stop provoking and prosecuting wars that displace and kill millions” and “people who think children shouldn’t starve” don’t have the same ring as “far left extremism”; it wouldn’t let them do the enlightened centrist, ‘all extremes are bad’.

        Jfc, chingchang? They can’t even hide their racism when their trying to pretend they’re not racist. These will be the same people who depict Xi as Winnie the Pooh while criticising the CPC’s approach to Xinjiang and pretend that they don’t see the racist connotations. Wankers.

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    It’s surreal to see the word “tankies” in something that claims to be an academic paper…

    I’m glad that we’re apparently so popular, though!