• chitak166@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    What’s especially sad is every day they’re in this condition, that’s another day where they fall behind because they can’t educate their children.

    This is what genocide looks like. Zionists are the new Nazis.

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      11 months ago

      I think about this all the time. I think about how unhappy it makes me to see a day wasted. If my kid spends a day in front of the TV I worry that he’s missing out on something. And that assumes we have TV. I think about a few hours in an airport, and how erratic and miserable it makes my kid and the adults, and being stuck in this state while also constantly running from hellfire raining down, never getting clean, never getting a good meal, never getting a good night’s rest… Hell does not seem sufficient to describe it.

      Btw, I think the comparison between Zionism and Nazism is unhelpful. It’s not unjustified, but the comparison obscures more than it reveals, imo. I think saying that Israel and the US are committing naked genocide captures the situation pretty effectively, and produces much more effective discussions online. As soon as the Nazi comparison comes up, I think it gives people who are uncertain what to believe an excuse to dismiss the criticisms against the Israeli government, and defenders of the genocide an easy way to divert the conversation away from Israel’s recent and not so recent war crimes.

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        11 months ago

        No one is supporting Hamas . Israel is using the attack that happ in Oct as an excuse to kill thousands of civilians. They are killing 90% civilians and last numbers I saw had over 10000 dead children. Are they all those kids terrorist ?

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        11 months ago

        “This isn’t what genocide looks like” said No1 who seems to be experts in international laws while blaming children for being born in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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        11 months ago

        Specifically, what it looks like when you start a war with a country more powerful than you.

        This is where you lose me. What percentage of Gaza’s population “started” the war?

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            11 months ago

            Yeah, that’s how war works. The leadership (in this case one chosen by the people) chooses on behalf of their people.

            The last election in Gaza was in 2006. About half of the population wasn’t even alive. Did they really choose this?

            Yeah, that’s how war works.

            So collective punishment of the civilian population is part of all war, in your view? Including cutting off food and water?

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                11 months ago

                Yes. In war, it’s super common for civilian populations to lose their homes, lose access to food and water supplies, etc

                This isn’t quite the same though is it? Food, water and essential supplies were purposefully cut off.

                You didn’t answer this part: given the fact that the last election was 2006 and about half of the population wasn’t even alive, did they really choose this?

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                    11 months ago

                    That’s called a blockade. It’s been happening forever.

                    No not that, this

                    Do you honestly think this group of Palestinians wouldn’t reelect them if a vote was held today?

                    We don’t know, do we? Because there has been no election. On October 6th a poll of Gazans did not support your conclusion: here Afterwards it gets a bit complicated because there is a “rally round the flag” effect that tends to increase support for current governments in war.

                    The point is that they do not currently have a democratic mandate.

                    For some reason you people ignore every other actual atrocity going on in the world to hate the Jews even harder. 2 million Uyghurs dead at China’s hand? No outrage.

                    Absolutely there is outrage! I don’t know what media you’re reading but maybe have a look around!

                    And “You people”? Lol.

      • samokosik@lemmynsfw.com
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        11 months ago

        I partially agree with you. Palestinians are stupid because they think repeated attacks will change anything. Israelis are stupid because they believe their brutal responses will end terrorism.

        And both have been doing this BS for 75 years.