• Candelestine@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      … don’t fuck words up. That’s what Netanyahu does, be better. A siege is a specific thing.

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        11 months ago

        Yeah tbf the siege has only been going on for twenty years

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          11 months ago

          That’s at least closer to accurate. But a 25 year siege would’ve starved 99% of the people there to death, maybe ~23-24 years ago. Unless you can think of a way to feed the whole population with that tiny bit of land for a couple decades.

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            11 months ago

            The siege of Ceuta lasted for more than thirty years.

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              11 months ago

              I’ve never heard of that historic event (or the city itself, for that matter), so I looked it up:

              • Ceuta is a city on the north coast of Africa across the strait from Gibraltar. It’s currently an autonomous city owned by Spain (and Morocco is apparently still pissed off about that).

              • The siege @Andrzej is apparently referring to happened from 1694 to 1727, with a brief interruption in 1720-1721 when defenders’ reinforcements showed up, forced the attackers to retreat to Tétouan, tried to capture that city for a few months, and then gave up and left again.

              • Apparently, the reason it lasted so long without succeeding is that Ceuta was getting resupplied by sea. In other words, the lack of accompanying naval blockade made it kind of a shitty siege.

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                11 months ago

                It was a siege though, just as the siege of Gaza is a siege

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          11 months ago

          A naval strategy designed to interdict sea transport to a specific area.

          Regardless, there is neither a siege nor a blockade that has been going on for anything even remotely close to 75 years. There is a proper siege occuring there, an actual by-the-book one, but it started fairly recently. Otherwise all the people in Gaza would have starved to death a long time ago, since they can’t grow enough food on that land to feed them all.