Young voters overwhelmingly say they would support President Biden over former President Trump in a hypothetical head-to-head match-up if the 2024 presidential election were held today, according to a poll released Wednesday.

In the Economist/YouGov poll — conducted via web-based interviews Dec. 16-18 — more than half (53 percent) of registered voters under 30 said they would support Biden, and less than a quarter (24 percent) said they would support Trump.

Another 10 percent said they would support another candidate, 4 percent said they were not sure, and 9 percent said they wouldn’t vote.

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    11 months ago

    I doubt I’m going to change your mind at all, but I just want to let you know your information about the rail strike is incorrect. Biden did help secure sick pay for those workers, here’s part of the statement from the IBEW:

    “We’re thankful that the Biden administration played the long game on sick days and stuck with us for months after Congress imposed our updated national agreement,” Russo said. “Without making a big show of it, Joe Biden and members of his administration in the Transportation and Labor departments have been working continuously to get guaranteed paid sick days for all railroad workers.”

    https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

    The student loan aid was also legally blocked by Congress, and the military budgets were also passed by Congress. There’s no magic wand to a lot of the problems you seem to have with Biden, unfortunately. He isn’t the sole authority in the US govt.

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      There’s no magic wand to a lot of the problems you seem to have with Biden, unfortunately. He isn’t the sole authority in the US govt.

      This is the unfortunate danger of populism generally. Bernie promised big things with no clear nor realistic path to delivering them, and people who are political rookies think he would have been solely capable of achieving those things through fervent advocacy or belief alone.

      Sweeping populist rhetoric slams into actual reality with similar velocity whether it’s Trump’s or Sanders’ when actually put into office. Very similarly to how Trump being elected in 2016 didn’t magically erect a giant border wall, Sanders being elected would not have resulted in us getting single payer healthcare, changed every long-term military alliance we had with others, eliminated the military industrial complex, nor canceled all student loans.

      These things are all from a position of “well, the politician just didn’t believe enough!” and no matter how fervent the belief, it takes a long time to affect change in the American system. Even illegally and forcefully turning America completely fascist is a multi-term project, which is why we don’t have grand fuhrer trump this moment.

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        Because those people don’t have a basic understanding of how the 3 branches of government actually work.

        If I’m elected to congress I’ll work towards passing a law mandating all licensed broadcasters run 24 hour marathons of School House Rock and other “USA civics edutainment for children” shows on a set date every year.

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        Sanders being elected would not have resulted in us getting single payer healthcare, changed every long-term military alliance we had with others, eliminated the military industrial complex, nor canceled all student loans.

        That doesn’t justify anyone voting for Biden over Bernie or the other options in the 2020 primaries.

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          I voted Bernie in the primary, and then (as reasonable adult) voted Biden in the general.

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            Clinton was president 30 years ago and Biden is to the right of Clinton. Three decades of reasonable adulting has pushed us towards fascism.

            Anyway, what would you say to the people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries? Are you willing to call them out for being selfish pieces of shit?

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              Clinton was president 30 years ago and Biden is to the right of Clinton.

              Three decades of reasonable adulting has pushed us towards fascism.

              Umm…got any sources for these claims?

              And also what’s the answer? To waste your vote on someone who has no chance in a first past the pole system? To whine on the Internet?

              Anyway, what would you say to the people who voted for Biden in the 2020 primaries? Are you willing to call them out for being selfish pieces of shit?

              Ah you answered my last question: the answer is for everyone to get bigly angry on the Internet at people who didn’t want Bernie. That’ll solve it. 🤷

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                11 months ago

                There were lots of other people running.

                Give me one good reason why someone would vote for Biden over everybody else in the 2020 primaries.

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                  Lots of people did vote for someone else in the 2020 primaries. This good variety of candidates that you claim existed only existed in the early rounds. Once Super Tuesday arrived, it was practically Bernie and Biden (everyone else was so far behind in vote percentages that they might as well not even been on the ballots). After Super Tuesday, the field narrowed even further to be exactly Bernie and Biden in the last remaining contests.

                  After Biden won South Carolina, and one day before the Super Tuesday primaries, several moderate candidates dropped out of the race and endorsed Biden in what was viewed as a consolidation of the party’s moderate wing.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

                  So, why would someone vote for Biden over Bernie in these contests you’re asking? It’s simple; they liked Biden more than Bernie.

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                    It’s simple; they liked Biden more than Bernie.

                    Alright. Why did they like Biden more than Bernie?